[Hide Comment] Depending on the line, the rating can be a range. 5.7 to 5.9 is a more general rating for the route. Large, solid holds going up and a fun chimney to use also if desired up to a flake system. There is one hold I noticed yesterday that is loose. Above the big ledge, approx. 8 feet is a semi-loose rock that seems crushed by the surrounding faces but just be careful with it. I choose to not use. Jun 24, 2012

[Hide Comment] Even though I think the left-facing flake is for Laid Back, I'm sure folks might use it for this too. Either way, see my comment under Laid Back about the loose hold. Just like the previous dude said, this thing has a serious chunk waiting to bust out. Be careful about what you pull on. Oct 10, 2016

[Hide Comment] This route stays dry when everything else seems wet. Loose rock is still there. Jun 30, 2018

[Hide Comment] While the guidebook and comments here suggest that the rating for the route ranges between 5.7 and 5.9 based on the chosen line, I find the crux to be near the top (a few moves above the huge ledge). Up there I can find two lines of about equal difficulty, probably about 5.8. Only a very contrived sequence to the ledge could be harder than 5.8, and you get a hands-free rest right before the crux, so I don't think the route at the bottom has much impact on the overall difficulty. Aug 26, 2021