Type: Sport, TR, 35 ft
FA: (TR) Brett Pinar and Tim Manefesto, October 2011, FL: Alex Honnold (solo), FL w/ bolts: Jeremy Schoenborn, Robby Schoenborn, September 2014
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Shared By: Adam Stackhouse on Oct 29, 2011
Admins: C Miller, Greg Opland, M. Morley, Adam Stackhouse, Salamanizer suchoski, Justin Johnsen, Vicki Schwantes

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Short bolted lead


Leftmost route at Somewhere n00b.


4 bolts or TR


Could this be bolted as a lead? Oct 30, 2011
Oakland CA
caughtinside   Oakland CA
Alex Honnold soloed the Big Todd on his recent trip to Joshua Tree! Apr 3, 2012
Benjamin Chapman
Small Town, USA
Benjamin Chapman   Small Town, USA
Alex Honnold soloed this......all 35 ft? The sugary oatmeal patina texture sounds incredible. Jun 24, 2014
Adam Stackhouse    
Now equipped with 4 bolt and was recently led by FL (lead) Jeremy Schoenborn, Robby Schoenborn 9/14 Sep 27, 2014
Oakland CA
caughtinside   Oakland CA
Wow. Where to even begin. So many transgressions to such a proud route!!!

First, you guys changed the grade on this climb. I listed it as .12a, because it was 12a before some tossers aggressively cleaned the holds into jugs. Way to drag it down to your level chippers! But the fact that my opinion of this climb was changed to .11- without my consent just shows that ethics don't exist on the internet.

Second, a couple guys bolting in bad style which had already been led in good style! And then claiming the FA! Shocking!! Rap bolting a route which had seen an onsight free solo... then claiming the FA! Newsflash: if something has been climbed without a rope before you, you didn't get the FA!

I have re-edited the route to reflect it's proud and true history! Sep 29, 2014
C Miller   CA  
The first ascent information for this route has been edited to reflect the convoluted nature of the various ascents.

FA or first ascent is just that - the first person or persons to climb the route in any style, be it aid, top-rope, free climbed or even on-sight solo. The first ascent, depending upon the manner of the ascent, may be improved upon but there can only be one first ascent. Sep 30, 2014