Type: TR, 55 ft
FA: TR: Ken Klis, 1986
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Shared By: Ryan Nevius on Oct 16, 2011
Admins: andy patterson, M. Morley, Adam Stackhouse, Salamanizer suchoski, Justin Johnsen, Vicki Schwantes

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Start right of “Camel.” Climb steep moves out right while working your way up to a left-facing seam.


Directly right of "Camel."


Toprope from the "Camel" anchors.


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Ryan Nevius
Chiang Mai, TH
Ryan Nevius   Chiang Mai, TH
Every time I top rope this after climbing Camel, I can't help but wish there were bolts to clip. In my opinion, the route quality is right up there with Camel itself. Oct 16, 2011
Jim Reynolds
Jim Reynolds  
I dont think this route is 10c anymore; a crucial hold broke, which coincidentally exposed a larger hold, thus making the crux not so cruxy

If you finish on the same ending as Camel, the move with the softball-like grip is probably 10c tho.. Oct 31, 2011
Tyler Alves
Santa Barbara, Ca
Tyler Alves   Santa Barbara, Ca
Totally agree with Ryan. Since the FA is unknown, would it still be totally out of line to bolt it? Rivals Camel in quality, but with a unique style of movement. Feb 10, 2012
John Knight
John Knight   Sedona
If you bolt it they will come . . . Feb 11, 2012
fa (toprope) I did it around 1986, named it slimy not Slippery, the hole was damp -- but that don't mean taint.

I never bolted it as I thought bolt #2 would be too close to Camel, and No Permits right there also, but you kids go get what you need ehh?

Feb 17, 2012
Ryan Nevius
Chiang Mai, TH
Ryan Nevius   Chiang Mai, TH
Don't get me wrong; I wasn't suggesting that bolts would be appropriate. I was mostly commenting on the quality of the climb and that it would make a good lead (like many other top rope climbs). I think it would be inappropriate and unnecessary to bolt this climb. Feb 17, 2012