Type: Trad, 70 ft
FA: Geoff Smith, Gary Allan, Dave Hough
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Shared By: Simon Thompson on Sep 4, 2011
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Access Issue: Peregrine closures and approach trail issues Details


This pillar has a fun route on either side of the it. Both routes are about the same difficulty, though I think the route on the right side is slightly harder and more sustained.

Right side: Climb into crack in the corner and follow it up to the top(hands and offwidth.) The crack features satisfying jams and can also be lie-backed. I found the crux to be near the middle of the pillar, though the route is fairly sustained until the top 10 feet.

Left side: Climb on the left side of the pillar, using the crack in the corner in combination with good ledges and jugs further to the left. The difficult moves are broken by rests on big holds.


Walk downhill and to climbers' right of the Discord Area, past the start of The Snake, and past a vegetated section of the cliff, you sill see a broken pillar leaning against the cliff. The routes are on either side of this.


There is a fixed anchor on top. Be aware of what the rope is running over if you choose to TR the pillar.

Right side: Protection is readily available but consider saving a BD#4 for the crux or bringing an extra.

Left side: Protection is a little more sparse on this side but all the difficult moves are well-protected.


Mike McLean
Mike McLean  
For some reason, Adirondack Rock gives this a single star. IMHO, it is FAR better than that (at least the right side -- this may be the first time I disagree with a AR star rating). As far as I'm concerned, if P1 of Ladder merits 2 stars, this one goes at 4 :)

That being said, I've just started at this grade so I don't have tons of comparison points.

GEAR BETA: For chickens like me, you can easily stitch this thing as long as you have big gear. Being the third person in my group to lead it, I knew that I could easily place 3 #4, 2 #5 and 2 #2 ... which I did :|

The climber who lead it just before me got away with much less big gear by using the right hand side a bit more than I did. Jul 16, 2012
Gary Jones
Cottonwood Heights, UT
Gary Jones   Cottonwood Heights, UT
The lookers right side is much better then the left side. Aug 3, 2012
Daniel Israel
Montreal, Quebec
Daniel Israel   Montreal, Quebec
Perhaps I'm a newbie, but I very much enjoyed this climb. Maybe because I find it aesthetic and simply cool. Very hard for 5.7 though. Oct 17, 2013
Jesse Bryant
New Haven, CT
Jesse Bryant   New Haven, CT
I'd like to point out that the right side was notably more difficult with notably less good gear than the left...Right side felt like 5.7+/5.8-, while the left felt, to me, like 5.6+/5.7-...The crack on the right takes a consistent #3-#4 to nearly the top of the climb. Bring doubles of those, or just climb the left side. Nov 8, 2016
Tim Dufrane  
Right side is wonderful, and warrants more attention than it gets. Awesome laybacks, a couple mentally taxing sections (if you don't have as much gear as you need), and just an all-around great sustained climb.

Make sure you bring plenty of #3s/big hexes. I ran out of big gear when getting into the nice layback section and ran it out 20', then could finally place a #2. Very secure climbing, but still sketchy if you don't know what you're getting into. Careful on the topout, the right side has a couple jutting rocks which seem like they could break loose. This could potentially result in a severed rope because of the belayer's position to the climb.

Highly recommended if you're looking for a fairly relaxed crack climb and are a confident 5.8 leader.

Left side is fine, has one or two interesting moves but also a couple suspect flakes. Not nearly as fun as the right side. Aug 8, 2017