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Routes in Happy Hunting Grounds

Type: Boulder, 15 ft
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Shared By: Mike Stearns on Aug 23, 2011
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Description

Start left of happy hunting grounds on thin sidepulls and edges. Throw hard for the upper holds.

Location

Happy hunting grounds boulder. Start on the arete left of HHG and continue up and left.

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Tim King
  V6
Tim King  
  V6
Yeah I worked the sit long ago with that sharp left crimp, but the positioning never felt good to the point I just always did it from the half-stand.

After finally seeing Bob's beta (really low left hand to start, almost on the ground), it somehow flows so much smoother and actually makes the start feel fun. The comparison to 911 can be a tough call, as I feel like if your 6ft+, 911 is pretty mellow (easy to reach the good crimp from the good foot), but seems harder for shorties. Either way they are pretty close difficulty wise, and worth jumping on both and feeling it out for yourself. Jul 3, 2015
andy patterson
Carpinteria, CA
andy patterson   Carpinteria, CA  
Okay, so this thread REALLY doesn't need more talk about grades, starting-holds, and other quibbling, but I'm a new dad, and since it's hard to get out very often, I find myself trolling the internet. So here goes:

Mary, Oliver (my 9 month son), and I camped out at Pine Mountain this last weekend, and I did a couple of laps on Dissing Euros "for old time's sake". For the left hand on the sit-start, I used what will hereafter be known as the "Sean Crozier Crimp", referred to in an earlier post. It's small, sharp, and immensely painful if it's hot out. I have this thing pretty wired, but man, it's not a giveaway from the full sit, and while I personally believe it's easier than 911 (sorry Sean), it ain't by much.

So good, though. Did multiple laps, just for the joy of it. My son was super stoked for some reason. No idea why. Jun 29, 2015
Bob Banks  
 
No idea about Tank Murdock Sean. I can barely even remember what it looks like. Jul 13, 2014
Sean Crozier
Oxnard, CA
  V7
Sean Crozier   Oxnard, CA
  V7
I used a very small crimp that's about head high when sitting, that made pulling your ass out the dirt super tough. Your way is dialed for sure.

On a different note, did Tank Murdock ever get finished? I looked at it two days ago and thought it looked super cool. Does it start on the sloper? Also, where does it finish? Jul 5, 2014
Bob Banks  
 
Hey Sean, would be interested to know which left-hand start hold you normally used, since it obviously isn't the blocky undercling I always used? Jul 2, 2014
Sean Crozier
Oxnard, CA
  V7
Sean Crozier   Oxnard, CA
  V7
Ok so I just climbed this yesterday using the left starting hold in Bobs video after doing Full-Contact, 911, and Mayday. I think Dissing Euros is easier than Full-Contact, on par with Mayday but still harder than 911. Thats just my opinion Jun 27, 2014
Footage of Ratso - rad. Jun 23, 2014
Bob Banks  
 
The left hand start hold used to be a pretty good block/undercling that broke off a few years ago. A bit of it is still there, but nothing like the original. The original right hand broke off also, as discussed up the thread. Found some video of me in my younger years making it look fairly easy. No doubt I couldn't pull my ass off the ground these days.

Dissing Euros from Bob Banks on Vimeo. Jun 21, 2014
Sean Crozier
Oxnard, CA
  V7
Sean Crozier   Oxnard, CA
  V7
Yeah it's tough. With a full-on-butt-in-the-dirt-sit, I think its harder than 911 and Full ContactÂ… Jun 21, 2014
Ben Parsons
  V6
Ben Parsons  
  V6
The sit is extremely difficult for V6, but starting from the move after the start is probably the softest 6 at Pine. This problem is in grade purgatory. Jun 19, 2014
Jon Hartmann
Ojai, CA
Jon Hartmann   Ojai, CA
Good call Andy. I just went up there this weekend and lo and behold, broken right hand crimp. Guess what though? It still goes and at the same grade. How lucky. May 20, 2013
andy patterson
Carpinteria, CA
andy patterson   Carpinteria, CA  
The right-hand crimp for the sit-start is visibly flexing. It's only going to be a matter of days... May 28, 2012
Luke Hetzel
Santa Barbara, CA
  V5-6
Luke Hetzel   Santa Barbara, CA
  V5-6
I agree I feel like their is an intermediate start between the sit and REACHY stand start.. I am 5'8" and started easily with holds about chest height, but there were holds lower I could have sat down for, although it only added one move that didn't add much difficulty. Nov 16, 2011
Joseph Stover
Batesville, AR
Joseph Stover   Batesville, AR
Stand start is a stretch? Where is the V4 stand start? On the sidepull and juggy crimp about 7ft up? And the V6 sit start is on the tiny crimps about waste height? What about the "middle way" stand start on the chest high left sidepull/crimp and either right undercling/sidepull crimp or further right sidepull. That seemed on the hard side of V4, but probably good. I can't wait to go back to it, I think I have good beta for the "mahayana start"... Oct 2, 2011
Bob Banks  
 
The stand start has always been a stretch. Sep 6, 2011
Mike Stearns  
 
I totally agree. I have no historical perspective for that erosion comment. I guess I was just assuming based on how awkward it felt. Sep 2, 2011
andy patterson
Carpinteria, CA
andy patterson   Carpinteria, CA  
For as long as I can remember, the "stand" start has always been a reach for me (6'), and since the low moves flow so nicely, I simply worked it from the sit, not the stand. This is a problem that is actually more awkward to stand-start than to sit-start, because you seem to be entering the problem at a weird transition. Aug 30, 2011
Mike Stearns  
 
The base must be affected by erosion. The "stand start" involved stacking two pads for me (5'11") and one pad for my partner (6'a lot"). Aug 30, 2011
andy patterson
Carpinteria, CA
andy patterson   Carpinteria, CA  
Sit-start is V6, stand-start is V4. Head up and left. Best problem of its grade in Happy Hunting Grounds. Aug 24, 2011