Type: Trad, Alpine, 900 ft
FA: tom lyman (2 pitches) al rubin and john waterman (whole route 1970)
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Shared By: lee hansche on Jul 11, 2011
Admins: Jay Knower, M Sprague, lee hansche, Jeffrey LeCours, Jonathan Steitzer, Robert Hall

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A fun route right up the slabs under the "Old Man". [Re' photo - there is also an excellent photo, at a slightly different angle, of the route posted to the Lakeview route. ]

Pitch 1: 5.7 Climb up and right of the big Detached rocks traversing right to a left facing corner. Tricky, slippery moves up the corner with good pro. Head up and right in to an alcove of broken rock with a single bolt. Belay.

Pitch 2: 5.8 make a long step right and walk on small ledges continuing in that direction until you have to make a long move right in to the amazing crack that you cant see till you are in it. Climb this crack (wide fingers to perfect hands) until you hit fist size then head up and left on slab to broken corner. Step down and left to a small ledge with 2 bolt anchor. This is right above the alcove belay.

Pitch 3: 5.8 Move left and climb easy "stairs" with no pro to the overlap (pin). Pull over this and climb crumbly slab through broken overlap, move slightly right to a pin at a cruxy overlap. Make a tricky (reachy) move and gain the anchors (2 bolts).

Pitch 4: 5.5 Climb crumbly mossy rock (not as bad as it sounds) past a pin and move left through the overlaps and up to a 2 bolt anchor.

Pitch 5: 5.7 Climb the slab above by moving up and right then back left and finishing up a finger crack. then pick your way through the broken stuff above to a belay down and left of where the Old Man once was.

basically this is where it meets up with Lake view. The Last two pitches that are shared by many routes are some of the best i've done on the cliff. A pretty face with amazing cracks followed by a pretty corner that goes just left of the Old Man.


Toward the left side of the slab section locate 2 very large detached block/flakes. You will be looking right up at the Old Man Not On the Mountain.

start here and finish to the left of the Old Man, as for Lake View.


Regular Cannon rack.
Michael Z.  
P1 the "tricky" corner is 5.8, where a block fell out. The crack on P2 was at one time a sustained finger crack but has widened due to rockfall. The crack is now probably 5.6 with a hardish move entering it P2 5.7? that being said the crack is spectacular and well worth climbing. Aug 7, 2011
twellman   Cambridge
Pitches 1 and 2 are quite fun, and well protected. There is a little 15 foot section of 5.5ish slab without pro on pitch 2 above the crack, but it is over quickly and easy climbing. The hand crack on pitch 2 is wonderful. Aug 14, 2011
lee hansche
goffstown, nh
lee hansche   goffstown, nh  
lily forgot her shoes today and climbed this route barefoot! nice work lillers! Aug 31, 2011
North Kingstown, RI
  5.8 PG13
Brian   North Kingstown, RI
  5.8 PG13
I think the top half of the line on your topo photo is too far to the right. Right about where you mentioned you got lost. I've done this route many times and always headed left on the fifth pitch up a bit of a run-out slab to meet up with Wiessner's Corner. The description on Chauvin Guides is accurate. I also added a beta photo that was updated after the rock fall. Sep 8, 2011
lee hansche
goffstown, nh
lee hansche   goffstown, nh  
thanks that makes soooo much sence! i knew i was off... and i did it again and still couldnt figure it out but figured thats cannon for you.... ill make a note on my photo-map Sep 8, 2011
lin murphy
lin murphy   boulder
I managed to get off route on the 3rd pitch by going up to an old bolt just up and left of the pin.
Don't do it this way! Up and up with cams in an overlap I cleaned with the nut tool. It is down=climable, but definitely not worth it.

Also, avoid going straight up from the first belay. It looked interesting to climb to the top of the pod and then step right to bolted face. But, there is no pro at the top of the pod, and those hangers are smashed flat.
Finally, I dislodged a rock on the first pitch and it cut my rope.
no wonder it is a famous climb. Sep 12, 2011
Michael Z.  
So Lee you may have been a little off route but it looks like you linked up with "Connection" The book says " a good way to avoid the loose rock on the upper pitches." so maybe that is the better way to go.

Lin, the slab you were looking at is Condicending (9+). Personally I don't think it is that bad Bolts can still be clipped "with skinny biners" or slung with nuts the bolts don't look bad just the hangers.

Finally I have been working on a topo of the slabs and am going to post it on the main page so please take a look. I would appreciate any more info anyone has :) Sep 18, 2011
lee hansche
goffstown, nh
lee hansche   goffstown, nh  
Mike, i just checked out your topo and the line you have for Conso is exactly the way i climbed it so maybe my description was hard to follow or my picture sucked but its good to know we climbed the same route haha :) Sep 18, 2011
Robert Hall
North Conway, NH
Robert Hall   North Conway, NH  
Wow! 3 yrs without a comment...guess it's time. For what it's worth, when I did the climb the "green" line was closer to what I remember. Back then, P1 was 5.4, but the step-into-the-finger-crack (which then stayed a finger crack) was about 5.7-5.8. If the pin in the overlap at the end of the "5.2 stairstep" is a 1 1/2" angle driven straight into a "hole", then it's been there since D. Byers and I climbed it, the probable 3rd ascent in 1971. Aug 14, 2014
Sam Fox
Burlington, VT
  5.8+ R
Sam Fox   Burlington, VT
  5.8+ R
Climbed Conso yesterday, 5/24. I loved it!

The only thing I didn't like is that p1 & p2 climb a massive flake that seems to be pretty damn detached.

P1 was hard, my girlfriend led and good thing because my fat fingers could not fit in the thin crack. I however did not even consider hanging since the first belay is one bolt!?! The only option to back up the bolt that either of us could see was a huge gap between the belay and the surrounding flake that could take a #6. [Admin. comment - see COMMENT below for a way to back up the 1 bolt. R. Hall]

P2 was great, I reached out with my foot to gain the crack which made the "cruxy" move quite easy. The crack is spectacular, going from .75c4 to #3c4 sizes. Looking at pictures of the climb taken from the ground however I realize that this is a crack in the detached flake which seems like it will someday rip apart and destroy this pitch.

After p2 things settle into slab climbing with some overlaps. There are pins here but they look worthless, I would give p3 an R rating because if you slip anywhere you're going for a long, awful ride. The "angle" above the stairs on p3 is gone, the hole does not take pro, but there is a worthless pin there to clip. Don't let that scare you though, the climbing is easy enough. While I was on p3 an unseen party on lakeview sent a shitload of lose rock raining down on my belayer and I and I was struck by a baseball sized rock. Nothing like a fresh injury to get you climbing faster. I went out right through an overlap past a pin (backed up with a carefully arranged nut) and did an extremely reachy move (read: Dyno off of slab to a hold about 4' above the overlap). I'm not sure if this was the right way to go, it was hard, but I was in the mood to get out of the fall zone.

P4 is easy 5.5, crank up and out left tossing in a couple bomber cams to protect your belayer before you reach a bolt anchor.

P5 friction out slightly right and then straight up the the lip that's right above the belay. Follow obvious friction to a finger crack (.75) and then dance your way up to another bolted anchor just above.

From here it's kind of anything goes on easy class 3-4 terrain trying to keep your rope from knocking off lose blocks as you work your way up and left to the final two pitches of weissners/lakeview. May 25, 2015
Having recently climbed both Lakeview and Consolation Prize, I second Sam Fox's comments: don't climb Consolation Prize if another team is above you on the upper sections of Lakeview. Those upper sections are now entirely covered with scary loose rock from when the Old Man fell off and some rock is going to come down, no matter what, if someone is up there.

BTW, we backed up the single bolt at the top of the first pitch by slinging some jammed blocks just above it. Worked fine. Jun 28, 2015
petr07 Lindahl  
5.8 R
I'm also with Sam on the R rating.

Gave this a go last weekend but turned back on P3 due to wet and questionable rock with pretty serious runouts. Made it up the 30 feet of runout "stairs" (seemed harder than 5.2 to me but less than say 5.6 so whatever) to the first overlap. Definitely a worthless-looking pin there and perhaps the one Bob mentioned from 1971. If I'm remembering correctly, about 5-10 feet above that is a fold in the rock that takes pro reasonably well, but above that it looked like 30-50 feet of runout slab with flakey rock and wet that day. Decided it wasn't worth the risk. On a dry day probably would have been much less scary.

Point is, personally feel like the R should be advertised. FWIW, the Sykes' "Secrets of the Notch" has P3 listed as 5.2R due to stairs section but again, thought that was sandbagged and in any case not the end of the R-rating. The new Falcon Guide "Rock Climbing New England" has the route but doesn't mention R-rating at all. Feel like their description is based on old beta and maybe pre-Old Man falling.

On the good side, the leaning handcrack (5.6) of P2 is 50 ft of awesome! Nov 26, 2015
John Gehrig
Easton, PA
John Gehrig   Easton, PA
I climbed the route this past weekend (8/27/16). One of the fixed anchors is missing a bolt (P5?), which was taken out by rockfall. I cleaned off the dangling tat, and smashed hanger. The other SS bolt looks solid. Aug 29, 2016
Jay Morse
Hooksett, New Hampshire
Jay Morse   Hooksett, New Hampshire
A note on the Pitch 4 5.8 Variation listed in Jon Sykes's "The Notches" guidebook: The author does not give this variation a safety rating. He even mind-bogglingly goes out of his way to call this variation "safe". This pitch is 5.8R by anyone's definition. Even with optimal protection on this pitch you will be climbing about 40' of sustained 5.8 friction slab looking at a huge and very nasty swinging fall, even if the available protections holds - which is questionable. Just for perspective, this pitch is significantly harder and scarier than anything on Sliding Board. It is good quality and has clean rock and I recommend it to really good slab climbers. Bring a yellow metolius mastercam or equivalent to back up the hilariously loose pin. But don't even think about this variation without a lot of experience on friction slab, a really cool head, and dry conditions.

I can't speak for the "standard" pitch 4 or pitch 5 since I didn't do them, but the rest of the route was great quality with interesting climbing and pretty good pro. Pitch 3 had some R, but it was never harder than 5.4 at most IMO and those sections were always over before I knew it.

All anchors that I used were in great shape Jul 30, 2017
John Dunn
Jeffersonville, VT
John Dunn   Jeffersonville, VT
I agree with Jay Morse's comment about the p.4 5.8 variation. The ridiculously loose pin pulled out easily with one finger a couple of days ago, so I removed it, and the previous bolt is quite old and rusty as well. This would be a nice option with a new bolt and maybe another about 2/3 of the way up the delicate 5.7 slab, but otherwise I agree with an R rating, or maybe R/X. Jun 29, 2018
Jay Stanley
Little Rock, AR
Jay Stanley   Little Rock, AR
Couldn't find a pin or a two bolt belay on pitch 4. Instead, belayed at an obvious single bolt anchor that used to be a double bolt (the left bolt was bent over as if from rockfall). Is this the correct P4 belay? Aug 27, 2018
Ryan George
San Francisco, CA
Ryan George   San Francisco, CA
Extremes of great and poor climbing. Pitches 1,2, and the final two were great; the others were scary, chossy, and a route finding nightmare. I believe P4 goes a little left from the anchor to avoid the 30ft unprotected slab; I didn’t see a pin. I stretched it out to the p5 anchors, placed ~8m above the “pitch 5” photo, and came up about a foot short with a 70m rope. The next pitch linked perfectly to the end of p6 with a 70m.

Honestly, the best way to get the money pitches (ie the lakeview pitches) would be to climb something else then rap down from the Old Man anchors to the sandy belay ledge below the steep face. I think but am not sure that a 70m rope would reach. Then it would be 2 short, high-qualify pitches to the top without the BS of pitches 3-5. The first two pitches also have rap rings and could be done on their own. Oct 1, 2018
lee hansche
goffstown, nh
lee hansche   goffstown, nh  
I wrote the description a long time ago. I went back recently and though I found the climbing fun in general. I am not sure I ever got pitch 5 right and I think pitch 6 is a choose your own shit show situation. I like the idea of doing the first 2 and last two and skipping the middle because I really like all 4 of those! Oct 1, 2018