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Routes in Damned Wall

Dam Fine Cracks T 5.8 5b 16 VI- 15 HVS 4c
Damned if You Do S 5.11b 6c 23 VIII- 23 E3 5c
Damned if You Don't S 5.12a 7a+ 25 VIII+ 25 E5 6a
Day as Night S 5.9+ 5c 17 VI 17 E1 5a
Fall Equinox S 5.8 5b 16 VI- 15 HVS 4c
Shale for Sale T 5.7 5a 15 V+ 13 MVS 4b
Unknown S 5.10a 6a 18 VI+ 18 E1 5a
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Type: Sport, 120 ft
FA: Randy Kieliszewski, Steve Habovstack, 1998
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Shared By: John Steiger on May 27, 2011 with updates from Mac Kieliszewski
Admins: Andrew Gram, Nathan Fisher, Perin Blanchard, grk10vq

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Start either at the base of Damned if You Don't or 20 or so feet right of Day as Night and gingerly fourth class 45 feet to a ledge. Damned if You Do takes the obvious bolt line above. A ragged, vertical shale band left of the bolt line can be disconcerting, but the bolts are close enough together that I think a fall would be safe with a watchful belayer. Easier than Rebel Yell, harder than Fine Arete, and definitely a step down in quality from both, the route is worthwhile nonetheless. The crux may be clipping the bolt just before a huge jug, depending on how you get to it. (Date of FA from


This is the line of bolts beginning off a large, loose-shale infested ledge system about 45 feet up, between Damned if You Don'’t to the right (the right-most bolt line on Dam Wall) and Day as Night to the left.


Dozen or so draws to chains. Lower/rap from a single 70m.


Very accurate description. And you're right, you wouldn't want to fall at a few of these bolts. May 29, 2011

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