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Prow'd Arete V2-3 5+
Type: Boulder, 8 ft
FA: ?
Page Views: 80 total, 1/month
Shared By: AField on May 25, 2011
Admins: Aaron Hobson, Jason Halladay, Anthony Stout, LeeAB Brinckerhoff, Marta Reece, Drew Chojnowski

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70 degree overhanging sit start on the right arete to move up and then left for the crimp and then bump to the good pinch, take the jug and mantle right.

PS- if someone has the real name and FA for the route feel free to let me know or edit yourself.


Uphill due east from crystal ship, in the OW cluster, scramble, the problem faces north.


a pad or two. spotter for the topout.


As far as I am concerned, post away. Pictures help and William or I will add any info we have. May 31, 2011
Excellent thanks for the input. There are some problems that I've been climbing and scoping out, should I post those, or let someone else do it? May 31, 2011
Good photo. Posting a photo with a boulder problem is nice. I have climbed that line, but don't think we ever named it. The area you are exploring is called Low Gun. From about 1995-2000 a small group of ne'er do wells scoured those rocks in search of new lines. We probably only named about a 1/3 and did not worry too much about grades as nearly everything falls somewhere between V1 and V3. We did name the most obvious, most difficult, or worst problems (the chapel, King T, and Technophobia) but otherwise we just climbed. If you keep poking around in that same area you should be able to find an east facing cave with some steep rock, the Black Fetus crack (VO unless you start really low), and farther south is John's crack and the sketchy Slashface. I say call it Prow'd arete unless William can remember us calling it something else. Cheers. May 31, 2011
Ok, pictures up. I have more if you need more, but those are the most informative. Also, I am not -repeat NOT- claiming FA or even development. It is too awesome of a line to not have been climbed before, for all that it is hidden away. I was simply so psyched on it that I wanted to share, and since no one put it online before me...
I looked at the sit-start left of crystal ship you mentioned, and it is pretty cool, but I didn't really work on it because my skin was already sore, and that crimp is quite sharp. May 30, 2011
True, oh so true, but over time, most areas develop fairly well. My theory is that if there is one classic line, then there is almost always something to warm up on and usually some other things to climb as well. If William's guess on the problem is right, then my overview photo is useless. It does not capture the crystal ship area. I always called the problem William described the shortest man. May 28, 2011
William Penner
The 505
William Penner   The 505
Agreed, Albuquerque has lots of bouldering potential out there.

We also must have some sort of record for blank chossy pebbles. If I had a dollar for every boulder I've walked up to and found an amazing feature with no holds or grips the quality of sugar cookies I could have retired by now. Foothills development is often a cocktail mixed with 1 part success and many more parts frustration. May 28, 2011
I still have no guess on the problem, but am with Claude on the potential. What other cities have reasonable quality undeveloped boulders within minutes of the city and often minutes of the car. The whole westside of Three Gun wasn't really developed until fairly recently and still has potential in the upper grades. William and the Tomtourage are constantly finding new stuff on the other side. Countless boulderers have passed through, but there is still more good rock out there. I think it is cool people are psyched on the foothills; most of the stuff will get better with traffic. May 27, 2011
claude.   ABQ, NM
I disagree with that, the Foothills have plenty to offer still. It just depends on how much you want to walk and your ability to find, clean and send. Recent development by Tom and William speaks greatly to that, and in fact, classic boulder problems are still being established. But without them having shared these new areas and problems, we'd probably never would have heard about them. So first off, thanks for that.

To someone who might be unfamiliar with the Sandias, a boulder problem without chalk or other tell tale signs of an ascent could easily be mistaken for an FA. Lichen re-grows, dirt accumulates, lots of brushing doesn't even guarantee a new problem anymore. The fact is that there is little or no written climbing history of Foothills boulder problems (at least that I'm aware of), and furthermore usually only locals know what's what, so that in itself makes distinguishing things hard. Agreeably of course, obvious boulder problems within relative proximity to parking, trails etc. have more than likely been done, (except for maybe the hard ones) but there is a ton of stuff out there still waiting to be found. Just keep looking.

May 27, 2011
William Penner
The 505
William Penner   The 505
Eric, maybe this is the sit start immediately behind the crystal ship? That short little thing with the cool xenoliths that tops out right where you hop over to go down to the glass house. I can't think of anything else that overhangs by 70 degrees out there (except of course for the roof cracks).

A couple photos should help: one looking at the problem and one from the problem looking out. May 27, 2011
Yeah, I'll take a camera next time I'm up there, sorry for the lack of clarity,but as you well know its a maze. May 26, 2011
We have climbed everything up there that is easier than V7 (or really tall or really chossy) so I am sure that this line has been done if it is good, but by your description I can not tell what boulder problem you are referring to in your post. I will post a picture of the bouldering area and maybe you can identify what problem you are talking about and I can tell you its name and what we graded it. You may be able to create a better set of directions/location by using some of the landmarks in my comments on the area.
Maybe William can figure it out and we will post the name and grade? Even better, post a photo. May 26, 2011