[Hide Comment] Easy peasy. Good for a new leader. Jugs galore. Aug 27, 2011

[Hide Comment] If you climb the choss in the corner, it's much easier than 5.8. May 29, 2012

[Hide Comment] Not a very obvious line. Could be anything from 5.7 to 5.10, depending on what you consider "off". Nov 23, 2012

[Hide Comment] Fun climb, I think the variation I did was actually a 5.6 or 5.7, and that the 5.8+ goes through the face. Variations are possible, lots of good holds. Nov 6, 2013

[Hide Comment] 1. Not a good route for a new leader. Clip 2 has serious groundfall if you miss it.

2. This route is super contrived.

3. It is also fun Sep 30, 2018

[Hide Comment] Climbed this route without any info, including the name of the route. I stayed in the chossy corner and didn't enjoy it. Route name is very apropos. Nov 8, 2018

[Hide Comment] Climbed it as a beginner on lead, pretty scary and would not recommend. Depending on your strength, length, and the route you take the clips can be very sketchy and like others have said a fall right before the second clip would be nasty. May 4, 2020

[Hide Comment] Pulled off a ~40-50lb block while climbing to this corner to get to Zorro. I pulled on a little block wedged underneath the first large horizontal boulder. As soon as I pulled the wedge, it popped off causing a slide of the larger boulder onto my body.. thankfully got away w not too much casualty but please please be mindful of this climb. Nothing was marked w Xs. it’s the first horizontal block about 20ft off the ground— it’ll probably make it a bit harder now Jul 19, 2020

[Hide Comment] Fine Han, Im pretty sure I seen the video for that. Ouch. Now the other day someone fell directly from the top of this. Setting up a TR or something. I think this route is cursed. Oct 12, 2020

[Hide Comment] Pretty much your average birdsboro route. Good for a warmup or someone learning to climb/lead. Jul 18, 2021