Type: Trad, 95 ft
FA: J.J.
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Shared By: Adam Beck on Jun 7, 2010
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Really long; really cool route found at the Hideout in Muir Valley. Follows an obvious crack system that goes through some gently overhanging rock and up the length of the wall. An exciting adventure!


The dihedral located where the trail for The Hideout dumps.


Standard rack with runners. The wide crack staring down at you from 70 feet up narrows to a point where it will accept a bomber #2 Camalot up high.


Ryan Justen
St. Paul, MN
Ryan Justen   St. Paul, MN
Great route! Nice and long too. The quality of huge plate jugs at the top worried me a bit, but maybe that's because I'm not used to the Red Jul 11, 2010
Mark Cushman
Cumming, GA
Mark Cushman   Cumming, GA
Plates that you haul on above the roof are SCARY thin, but seem to be solid. Fun route! Nov 16, 2010
Jonathan Steitzer
West Lebanon, NH
Jonathan Steitzer   West Lebanon, NH  
Fun, easy Mar 7, 2011
This is the best 5.7 at the RRG, never will you find a steeper climb with such good hold at the grade. Crux is the first 10-15 feet then its 5.5 sailing on jugs. Sep 7, 2016
Ted Pinson
Chicago, IL
Ted Pinson   Chicago, IL
So this did NOT feel like 5.7 to me, especially at Muir. The dihedral was also super dirty and sketchy, and pulling on those plates at the top, I was just waiting for one to pull off...although you can stick a bomber #4 in the fist crack before launching into that section. That said, it was a fun climb, but not 5.7 IMO. The top section felt exactly like the 10s
over at Great Wall. Have never experienced an overhanging jug haul trad climb before! When I hear "gently overhanging," I don't exactly picture body-sized roof pulls... Apr 10, 2017
Detrick Snyder
Michigan, for now
Detrick Snyder   Michigan, for now
A little bit of everything, really fantastic route. Except for the very first move, definitely not harder than 5.7. Plates at the top sounded solid to me. Apr 9, 2018
Jay Morse
Hooksett, New Hampshire
  5.7 PG13
Jay Morse   Hooksett, New Hampshire
  5.7 PG13
This route is awesome! It is also undoubtedly PG13 at the grade, definitely not a good choice if 5.7 is your limit or if you are just learning trad. Totally fine and secure if you are confident in the grade though. May 17, 2018
Derrick Keene
Derrick Keene   Kentucky
The crux on this can vary depending on your strength/weaknesses. I thought the first 10 to 15 feet were easy, but can see where some can struggle on it. The next 10 feet was the crux for me as it was damp, dirty, and stemming. Not a fun combination for me. The rest was jug heaven and super easy climbing for anyone with a little endurance. Plates are still solid, but definitely a little sketchy feeling as usual when leading. Overall one of my favorite trad routes at the Red. May 30, 2018