Type: Sport, 30 ft
FA: Vaino Kodas, doni, Michelle Montgomery
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Shared By: J tot on May 23, 2010
Admins: Jason Halladay, Anthony Stout, LeeAB Brinckerhoff, Marta Reece, Drew Chojnowski

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A stout V3ish boulder problem through the first couple bolts gives way to slightly easier but sustained climbing.


On the arete between Flake Out and Green Thumb.


Well bolted at the bottom where the route is hard, with the bolts spacing out as you go.

Fixed chains for anchors.


Lisa Cecchini
Lisa Cecchini  
Great climb, its short but I liked it alot. May 24, 2010
doni   NM
FA was Vaino Kodas, doni, Michelle Montgomery. The name of the climb is General Mayhem. Glad you liked it! May 24, 2010
Jarred Cleerdin  
Fun short route no harder than 5.9+ all the holds are positve and big. Might seem a little harder for shorter people making the big left move. Jun 8, 2010
Jason Halladay
Los Alamos, NM
Jason Halladay   Los Alamos, NM  
I added some leaver 'biners to the chains on this route last Friday. It would be sweet if they didn't get ripped off. Jun 9, 2010
Devin C.
Devin C.  
Nice addition to the area! Agree with the v3-ish maybe v2+ boulder problem at the start! For me v2-v3 does not translate into 5.10 in very many ways, I give this a solid .11a and I'm 6'2". Great climb and well protected, props to those who set it up!! Jun 9, 2010
Scott Beguin
Santa Fe, NM
Scott Beguin   Santa Fe, NM
This thing shut me down. I feel it is harder than .11a. Isn't v3 equivalent to 5.12? Maybe I was missing something. Apr 26, 2012
LeeAB Brinckerhoff
LeeAB Brinckerhoff   ABQ, NM  
V2 would be 5.11 and V3, 5.11+. However since most people boulder harder than the climb on a rope and it is only hard at the start it might be easier for them than say 50 feet of 5.10- climbing to a V2 which would likely be 5.11/5.11+ as well. Apr 26, 2012
Andrew B. Ellis
Ruidoso, NM
Andrew B. Ellis   Ruidoso, NM
All in all this is a really fun V1 followed by 5.9+ climbing to the anchors. A tough 5.11a at the hardest. some tricky feet keep it in grade. (I certainly missed them on my first try)

Cool little route! would be a great first 5.11 lead.

I think the guy claiming it was 5.9+ was talking about the route to the right? (just around the arete, "green thumb") Sep 4, 2017
Thomas Barton
Thomas Barton  
I left some new 'biners on the chains today. The old ones were about half worn through; probably still fine, but they didn't inspire much confidence. Haha

Great route! Tough start! (for me) Nov 4, 2017