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Routes in 17 - This and That Cliff

Cramming T 5.10d 6b+ 21 VII+ 21 E3 5b
Said and Done T 5.9 5c 17 VI 17 HVS 5a
Scram S 5.12a 7a+ 25 VIII+ 25 E5 6a
This and That T 5.10c 6b 20 VII 20 E2 5b
Tips T 5.11+ 7a 24 VIII 24 E4 6a A0
Walk, Don't Run (aka The Bouldering Arch) V0 4
Whim T 5.9 5c 17 VI 17 HVS 5a
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Type: Trad, 3 pitches
FA: Jim Donini & Jim Bridwell - 1972
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Shared By: Osprey Overhang on Jan 25, 2010
Admins: M. Morley, Adam Stackhouse, Salamanizer suchoski, Justin Johnsen, Vicki Schwantes

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Access Issue: Yosemite National Park has yearly closures for Peregrine Falcon Protection March 1- July 15 Details

Description

Pitch one of this three pitch route is a stellar 80 ft. of high quality, clean cut, lieback offwidth. The crux of which is up high where the crack bulges and veers right(.10a). Although avoiding the pump is probably the real crux.

Location

This climb is in the middle of This and That cliff. To the right and uphill from the big arch, or left and down from Cramming. Look for a short, right facing, dirty, 3rd class ramp/corner with a nice grassy ledge on top. A wonderful place to be an a sunny winter day! Look for the right facing four inch crack.

Rappel the route with one 60m rope from slings around a tree/bushes. Bring a leaver sling just in case.

If you've climbed the other pitches, please describe them in the comment thread below.

Protection

Get through the last 15ft. of this climb with one finger size piece and an off-finger piece. The rest of this climb takes nothing but large cams. Bring at least three #4 camalots, two #5 friends, and a #6 friend. One tipped out #4 friend can be placed off the ground for piece of mind. The belay off the ledge also takes #4 camalots if you've got them, otherwise, count on the first piece of pro being the belay piece.

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Osprey Overhang   ...
 
When I climbed this, it was evident that we did not bring enough large gear. So I climbed the first 10 - 20ft of the climb with two #4 camalots and one #4 camalot for the belay. Then down climbed and took the belay piece and the first piece out to be used further up on the climb which continually gets harder until the final bulge is pulled. The #6 friend goes in perfectly for the bulge. I think this is a good technique to use as most people are not going to bring up five #4 camalots. It makes you appreciate both of the Jims for doing this without cams at all! Jan 25, 2010
Alexey Zelditch
San Jose
Alexey Zelditch   San Jose
My gear was 2x#4 Friends, 2#4 Camalots, and 1 #5 Cam C4 ( barely fit- #5 friend would be better) Not sure how #6 will go Jan 26, 2010
Alexey Zelditch
San Jose
Alexey Zelditch   San Jose
climbed it recently again- felt very hard for 10a (I did not lay back tzo)
#4 camelots works better than #4 Friends Feb 24, 2014
Buddin  
Just did this route the other day. Really good warm up. Even with water at the "crux" we felt is was a good 5.8+ Mar 24, 2017

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