[Hide Comment] Benjamin, curious to know what you thought of Immaculate? Interesting pitch. Nov 15, 2014

[Hide Comment] "Everything the name implies?" A tube worth of glue is certainly not what I was expecting with the name Immaculate. Nevertheless, it is a fun route that is engaging until the end. Apr 18, 2016

[Hide Comment] ^ No I just meant, what did you think of the climbing? Did you find it enjoyable? May 26, 2016

[Hide Comment] "It's the Santa Monica's. John Long characterized it as "vertical mud." No sense in bitching about it. Just make a tube of epoxy part of your rack.
G. Halsne...what I think is that folks should stop toproping through the shuts and place their own gear."

I enjoyed the route and have no complaints with the glue. I highly recommend it. While the route is poorly named, it does not bother me. My annoyance came from the quoted section in the previous route description. Thanks for changing it.

I probably exaggerated the amount of glue, but there is quite a bit up there May 26, 2016

[Hide Comment] Ben can't tell you how the route climbs he has never climbed a 5.12, funny that submits climbs he has never done. I can't figure him out. He has never lead a 5.12 in his life. Yes Ben, I did this route first try, get over it. Aug 24, 2017

[Hide Comment] one of the best 5.12 at echo. Feels like a limestone route. I didn't find any loose holds including the headwall above the crux. Sep 26, 2017

[Hide Comment] Jeff...you are such a warm, caring, and charming soul. Thank you for the love and support. Sep 27, 2017

[Hide Comment] Side pull just left of the first bolt broke today. Classic Echo! No change to the grade. Feb 14, 2021