[Hide Comment] A tricky 10a. Note: a 70 meter rope will NOT get you back to the ground! Jan 7, 2009

[Hide Comment] a surprisingly good climb - sustained, thoughtful 10a moves to the top. it's totally worth the two raps it takes to get down. Feb 15, 2010

[Hide Comment] I love this climb. All 140 feet! you need two ropes to get down or lower to the the anchors on Flying Scorpian. A lot of great moves on this climb. Edges, crimps, jugs...it's all there! Nov 20, 2011

[Hide Comment] Rapped with a 70 just fine Nov 10, 2015

[Hide Comment] Don't miss the rap rings above Flying Scorpion. Rapped with a 70m rope and had to untie and downclimb the last bit (about 3-4 feet?) Feb 6, 2016

[Hide Comment] Great pitch. Relatively hard for EPC 5.10a rating

My 70m mammut infinity did NOT reach the ground. Belayer climbed up with knotted end in the belay device so i could lower to around the first bolt, then solo down climb from there.

Knot your rope! Feb 15, 2016

[Hide Comment] There are some conflicting comments, so I'll add my $0.02 so folks can make their own decision.

When my 99# girlfriend rappelled on a 70m rope, she made it to the 4th class ledge about 4' off the deck. The guys that climbed it after us had a 70m rope, but only made it to the first bolt on rappel.

YMMV. And so may your rope length. Nov 29, 2016

[Hide Comment] EXCELLENT ROUTE. This route is as good as any .10 you can find in the Potrero.

It is very sustained. I would call it closer to .10b because of how continuous all the moves are for a long way.

Our Maxim 70m worked fine although if you have a Mammut 70m you won't make it. for some reason they are a bit shorter, or maybe our maxim is longer than 70m.

If you are concerned, just rap climbers right to the anchors for Flying Scorpions just beside the ledge with all the plants on it and break it into 2 rappels. Dec 18, 2016

[Hide Comment] Lots of conflicting opinions on rope length on this one - seems to be a manufacturer difference. For example, my Sterling made it to the little boulder, no downclimbing needed. However, the people after us with a brand new Mammut, only made it to the first bolt. As everyone else here says, be very careful, knot your ends, and you'll be fine. All that said, do not miss this route - it is long, varied, and spectacular! Closer to 10b, as most people say, and the bolts are well spaced. Nov 26, 2017

[Hide Comment] Definitely a rope stretcher on a 70m rope, so make sure that you have good knots in the end of your rope as most of these posts suggest. Different manufacturers cut their ropes differently and some are a couple of metres longer than specified when new. (However, I once climbed this route on a BRAND NEW "70"m Maxim Pinnacle and ended up between the 2nd and 3rd bolt when I lowered off. Turns out the "70" m rope was actually only 64.5 m!! Even reputable rope companies sometimes make mistakes.) Note that with use and with age, a rope gets shorter due to re-programming and off-gassing of the nylon, sometimes by as much as 2-3 m for a 60 m rope. Feb 20, 2018

[Hide Comment] Super fun route! I really enjoyed getting on it. I had a new 70 m rope and had to down-climb about 8-10 feet (easy to down climb, just could easily be a disaster if you don't have a knot on the belayer's end). Dec 31, 2018

[Hide Comment] awesome route. full value. make sure belayer ties a knot in the end of the rope. lower to a ledge system near the base. Apr 1, 2019

[Hide Comment] Great pitch Quite sustained and seeing some polishing on the holds, but a sandbag at 10a, I’ve climbed a lot of routes in the area and this route several times over the years. It’s 37 m to the ground very tight on a 70m rope to Lowe make sure you have a knot at the end. Feb 10, 2020

[Hide Comment] Our 70m made it to the ground with rope stretch and belayer climbing up the little ledge at the bottom Feb 20, 2020