Type: Boulder, 15 ft
FA: Jason Kehl
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Shared By: JJNS on Dec 1, 2008
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One of the best V8s in the canyon. Sit start with left hand in the the lowest hueco and a right hand on some slopers. climb the prow. Bad landing if you fell from the top.


couple of pads and a good spotter


Is there a name and grade for the climb that is between Anti-Future Plan and Plan 9? I mean the climb that is incorrectly called A-F P in many videos. (For example, here vimeo.com/158069643 where Jason Kehl corrects the person and gives a link to a video of the real A-F P ( youtube.com/watch?v=FBOhcVG… ).

Some people might think this third climb squeezes a line between two existing climbs, but I don't think it's contrived at all. In any case it involves climbing some cool features that aren't used by the other two lines, so for a lot of people it would be totally worth doing. Sep 22, 2016
Patrick, I don't know that problem, but I agree that it's excellent! A good number of people were trying that line, and seemed generally confused about what Anti-Future Plan actually is. I'd really recommend "Unknown right of Anti-Future Plan" (v6ish). Jul 23, 2018