Type: Trad, 400 ft, 2 pitches
FA: Crawford, Smith- circa mid-1980s
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Shared By: J W on Oct 9, 2008
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Access Issue: Red Rock RAIN AND WET ROCK: The sandstone is fragile and is very easily damaged when wet. Details


Just above the Necromancer crag is an obvious orange wall with a striking corner on the right hand side- This is the route. A dirty pitch up the brushy gully leads to the base of the main crack, then a long pitch leads to a ledge far up the corner.


Just above Necromancer.


Good selection to 5", heavy in the thin hands to fists.


I'm not sure why the comments about the incident on this route were removed, but to the best of my memory, a couple of locals had a huge pillar nearly wipe them out on this thing, ropes destroyed, major rockfall, the whole deal. Anyone who's checking this thing out should bring some bail slings JIC and be ready to trundle some gravel off of the route as they go. Looks like a great 2nd pitch from afar-if anyone knocks out the route and has more up-to-date info, especially about the condition of the rap anchors, post up so I know to bring up hardware for replacement if it's needed. Nov 3, 2011
Las Vegas, NV
J W   Las Vegas, NV
That is odd that those comments were removed. I was the one that triggered the rockfall- it was definitely epic and we got lucky. Given the condition of the rap station at the top of 1, I'd take some tat and maybe even a hand drill kit for the top of 2.

That said, given the condition of the rock up there, I can't say I'd recommend the route- what I knocked off wasn't the only sketch looking thing up there... Nov 4, 2011
That is pretty weird. I figured you pulled it for some reason. What do you remember about the anchors on top of P1 and P2? Was there any bolting done on the FA or is it a way-sketchy 20 year old webbing mess w/RP and a knot kinda deal? Nov 4, 2011
Las Vegas, NV
J W   Las Vegas, NV
Nope- not me. I remember the top of P1 had a nut and something else for the anchor, we rapped off it and I remember it being not that awesome in not that awesome rock. Never got to the top of P2- the rockfall happened as I started up it, shredding both my ropes and getting down safely became the primary concern. Nov 4, 2011
I talked to Crawford last spring a couple of times-funny guy, basically told me I HAD to do that thing, that it really is THAT good. Looks amazing from a distance, kind of off the beaten track, I think that adds to the appeal. It's for sure the most popular route up there, and it sounds like no one's been on it since the huge rockfall. I've got a lot of ASCA stuff I'm juggling, but I'm jonesing to get on this sucker and give it a shot. I just remember my one time up there thinking that there had to be a quick way up there, and half a day of epic scrub hell later, I was back at the car thinking how nice it would be to do the Hop route (again). I'll post up once I've done this thing, I'm gonna wear two helmets for it. Nov 4, 2011
smassey   CO
Was that as civil as it looked? I think history has been made... Nov 14, 2011
You said it. I swear I'm getting soft in my old age-either that, or I've been sitting under the mistletoe...

Nov 16, 2011
Jonathan K  
Beautiful climb I'd say its hard for the grade but I'm no expert and would have given it 4 stars if less bushes wer involved on the first pitch. Oct 5, 2012
Rob Fielding
Las Vegas, NV
Rob Fielding   Las Vegas, NV
2 1/2" SS ASCA bolts w/ links were installed on the top of the second pitch.

This route is adventurous and the rock quality is questionable at times on the 2nd pitch... Use caution! I believe the story was erased on here, but a couple local climbers had some serious rockfall w/ a cut rope.

1st pitch: This was the most obvious line to get to the base of the climb w/ the least amount of crunchy rock. We tried to make it a lil less bushy, but it's still bushy. Climb 4th class shenanigans until you reach a ledge to belay on. Continue up the path of least resistance until you encounter a small roof crack which takes 2 c4#3's and eventually a c4#4. Continue up the arete (slightly runout) until you reach a small left facing dihedral for finger size gear (crux @ 10a). From here, avoid the slings to your right w/ two nuts/blue webbing and continue up towards the large pine tree which you can belay at.

2nd pitch: Continue up the crack and hand jam for days. The rock quality is questionable at times... The crux comes at the end and is technical using a combination of liebacking/stemming/faceclimbing.

Gear recommendations: Single rack to 4", 2 extra .75's, 2 extra #1's, 3 extra #2's, 2 extra #3's. Optional #5 below the tree.

Rappel down and slightly right towards the fixed nuts which seemed alright. May 22, 2013