Adventure Punks
5.10d,
Trad, 550 ft (167 m), 5 pitches, Grade III,
Avg: 3.6 from 118
votes
FA: Paul Van Betten, Richard Harrison, and Sal Mamusia, 1983
Nevada
> Southern Nevada
> Red Rocks
> (10) Pine Creek…
> Challenger Wall
Access Issue: Red Rock RAIN AND WET ROCK: The sandstone is fragile and is very easily damaged when wet.
Details
Holds rip off and climbs have been and will continue to be permanently damaged due to climbers not respecting this phenomenon. After a heavy storm, the rock will remain wet, sometimes for several days. PLEASE DO NOT CLIMB IN RED ROCKS during or after rain. A good rule of thumb is that if the ground near your climb is at all damp (and not powdery dry sand), then do not climb. There are many alternatives (limestone, granite, basalt, and plastic) nearby.
HUMAN WASTE Human waste is one of the major issues plaguing Red Rocks. The Las Vegas Climbers Liaison Council and the AAC provides free "wag bags" in several locations (Black Velvet, First Pullout, Kraft Mtn/Bouldering, The Gallery, and The Black Corridor). These bags are designed so that you can pack your waste out - consider bringing one to be part of your kit (just like your rope and shoes and lunch) no matter where you go. Once used, please dispose of them properly (do not throw them in the toilets at the parking area).
Description
WOW! This is one of the best routes in Red Rock canyon. With varied climbing on very good rock this route mixes in some of the best Red Rock has to offer. A must do.
Pitch 1: Begin by heading up slabby face holds. Look for a line of holds leading right to the obvious flake. The traverse right to the flake is 5.9 and has no protection. Once you gain the flake good gear is had. Follow the system of flakes up and right. After a wider section of the flake traverse directly right on a finger/hand rail(top of a flake). This is the crux. Continue up and left to the fixed anchor. 5.10a, 135ft.
Pitch 2: Climb left off the belay to a fixed(and pretty good) Knifeblade. Climb past this and into the left facing corner with a stem box on the left forming a channel. Continue up this channel, where you will encounter the crux. Follow the crack system up until you reach the fixed anchor. 5.10a/b, 125ft.
Pitch 3: Climb up the left facing corner above. Liebacking and jamming will see you through. The rock on this pitch is incredible and the climbing is 5 stars. Belay at the fixed anchor on a sloping ledge. 5.10a, 100ft.
Pitch 4: Climb up and right into the corner. Climb the corner until you can step left to a perfect finger crack on the steep varnished wall. Do not step over to early it will be obvious. Climb the finger crack in perfect varnished rock.
At the top of the finger crack abit of face climbing will lead you up then back right into the corner and 2 drilled angles. Alternately you can continue up the corner. Supposedly this is a bit easier, however there is a big white block you must climb around that is suspect. Another 5 star pitch. 5.10b, 100ft.
Pitch 5: The Offwidth. Continue climbing the left facing corner that has now become wide. Climb several crux's including a thin one guarding the belay. Stop at the fixed anchor. This is the end of the route. 5.10d, 100ft.
Descent: Rappel the route with 2 ropes, 1, 70M will not work.
Location
This is the obvious left facing corner capped with an arching roof. The route starts at the low point of the wall.
Protection
Set and a half of nuts, small and medium nuts are key.
1 Set from Green Alien to #6 Camalot. If you want to sew up the OW bring extra big gear.
[Hide Photo] Coming up the fun corner on Adventure Punks
[Hide Photo] My homie following while I take in the excellent vantage atop P4. 11/20/21
[Hide Photo] The R rated start. We used a red AND blue ballnut which would prevent falling all the way down the gully but would not prevent a ground fall onto the ledge.
[Hide Photo] looking down P4
denver, co
However if you skip the last pitch you haven't really climbed the route have you?
So! I suggest that anyone climbing only the first 4 pitchs(which are Awesome, did I say that yet?) has climbed a variation to the route.
This variation has a name....Adventure yuppies.
Plus they will miss one more great pitch. The blue collar pitch! Sep 12, 2008
denver, co
redrocksguidebook.com/forum… Sep 13, 2008
a couple of guides were climbing this route a few years ago. the day went swimmingly until their arrival at the base of the wide pitch. apparently the leader didn't know how to wiggle up chimneys, so instead she went out on the face to try unprotected .11ish slabbin'. her fall ended with a badly broken leg (femur, i think?) and a helicopter ride out of pine creek.
as a testament to how rarely this route gets done, their bail gear was still in situ 2-3 years later. this is a shame b/c this route is quite good and deserves more traffic.
finally, a note about the 'offwidth.' don't let it scare you off. like pretty much every rr route, it doesn't really require crack skills. its wide enough with plenty of face holds to allow a couple wiggle moves and its over. no worries; it would be more like 5.8 a lot of places. and if they haven't been removed yet, there are a couple of bolts on the pitch mistakenly added by a party who thought they were making an fa a few years ago. Sep 15, 2008
denver, co
I agree with you to a point concerning the last pitch. However I did use multiple Chicken wings, a couple of arm bars, one stack(which isn't the only move there), mixed with alittle squeeze chimneying.
But due to some key foot holds stemming keeps the grade around 5.10+....in true Red Rock form!
Cheers! Sep 15, 2008
Minneapolis, MN
Bend, OR
leeds, ut
The top anchors have been reported as fine, but considering the lame state of the rest of the anchors, I'd be ready to be unthrilled when hitting the last belay. [Edit: I was just assured that the top anchor has been replaced...] We started rapping with a little over an hour to get back to the car (no late pass, bonus points for forethought), foregoing the $200+ ticket for the chance to come back on a non-rotisserie heat day and finish the last pitch. It's really obvious that the retrobolts placed for pro on the final OW pitch are convenience bolts, nothing more. I can't believe that anyone climbing up past fixed pins, four anchors, well-worn and non-snappy climbing in the ass-end of pine creek thought they were on a new route and just happened to have 2 bolts to put in on a continuous crack climb. Those bolts are there to help lazy climbers dumb down a classic and get by without the double set of big boys that anyone less crazy than Richard would want to lead a pitch of those proportions.
The first ascentionists want those bolts gone and give their permission to return the route closer to its original state. As Richard put it, it was a rap route, it IS a rap route-nothing wrong with having safe raps so no one gets hurt and people can enjoy the route without shitting themselves getting off the thing. Richard Harrison considers that route and specifically that pitch as a statment of everything his climbing style is and was about at the time the route was put up. There are plenty of unclimbed, scary and gear intensive offwidths to be put up as first ascents that are legit (if not legal or respectable) to bolt up as sport climbs if that's really what turns you on. In the meantime, please leave the classic routes of Red Rock how you found them, and preserve the history and challenge for the next generation. Better yet, climb a route like Adventure Punks, learn what can be done with a pair of brass balls, some brass nuts, and a little belief, and put up routes that carry on the style and tradition that made routes like this great. End rant. Jun 9, 2011
leeds, ut
Hey Wilder-only Rob gets a thank-you? I'm hurt! Now if I don't hear from you on Valentine's Day, I'm going to KNOW something is up... Jun 11, 2011
Anyway, I just want to give a nod to the person/persons who added belay bolts to Adventure Punks not too long ago and give respect for actually taking the effort to explain what and why they did on the route. I also want to clarify that the newer bolt atop the first pitch was in hollow rock, but so was the original. In the case of the bolt added at the second belay, it was placed well.
I think that Adventure Punks is a good example of what happens when people do "work" on existing routes a little at a time, on their own, without necessarily having the best ASCA hardware, and, more importantly, the permission of the first ascentionists to make those changes.
Who added the drilled angles? Why drilled angles of all things? I confirmed with the FA guys that they've never placed a drilled angle-EVER. The route in its original state had two bolts, a few nuts and slings, and one pin for raps-not the safest, but also not a mess of random crap put in by whoever felt like it over the years.
The lesson to learn here is to consult the FA team before making changes, and avoid getting too "creative" with someone else's statement of what a climb should be. Paul and Richard are psyched that the anchors on the route have been upgraded, the mystery holes filled, the tat and chain removed, and the visual appearance of the route restored as best possible.
Again, thanks to the person/people that contacted me about previous work done. I hope that the next time you get out to climb Adventure Punks, it's the safest, most pleasant, and aesthetic trip you've had up the route. Buy the FA guys a beer sometime-they take a lot of pride in that route, those memories, and those friendships. Plus, added bonus-they lived through it! Jun 14, 2011
denver, co
When Joanne and I did this route there wasn't too much known about it.
A lot of the rappels were from fixed nuts(even a cam). Sounds like there's been some improving on that...thanks!
This route is one of my all time favorites anywhere....
josh Aug 4, 2011
Bloomington, IN
thanks... lou Mar 7, 2012
I've seen strong 5.10 trad daddies sketch out and struggle on the first pitch. The initial pro is AFTER 5.9 cruxing, is bunk 00 tcus and small wires in a hollow, 1/2-3/4 inch thick bongo flake. The gear on this pitch is consistently hollow, gongy stuff. It's beautiful and fun but no joke. It's by far the easiest on the route physically if not mentally though, so if you're not able to pull the moves I'd downclimb and move on with your life. Not every route's for everyone. Despite the "not X" banter you're hearing, a fall from 40' up might rip all the junk gear and take you and your belayer for a long tumble down slabs. The initial impact could easily kill you and holds are waiting to break on this as with most RR climbs. Heads up, wear a helmet. Mar 10, 2012
Salt Lake City, UT
cheers.... Mar 16, 2012
Maine
Grand Junction
Pitch 1-people exaggerate the initial move off the deck. You can reach the solid edge without doing any slab moves, then mantle and its done. Its only 15 feet up on a slab, not 35. Don't bother with the traverse beta from the left. Really fun flakes follow.
Pitch 2-The initial 15 feet are the crux, but gear is there though creative. The last 20 feet all I could get was a purple tcu and green c3, so it felt pretty heady.
Pitch 3-Best gear pitch. Not heady, fun great climbing in a corner.
Pitch 4-most heady for me. The corner lacks obvious gear, mostly really small stuff till you can get to the finger crack which was flarey with pods, then I couldn't find any good gear minus a purple c3 in a horizontal from the top of the crack to the anchor, which felt like 30 feet. If this was a Urioste route it would have 5 or 6 bolts on it. Not my favorite pitch. Not sure where Killer thought a #5 would go as there is barely any crack on this pitch.
Pitch 5-Easy up to first bolt, then walk the #6 for 10 feet till you get a hand jam, then easy to 2nd bolt, then squeeze chimney. From the squeeze chimney you can bail out to the crack on the left wall, and no more OW from there. So really, its 20 feet of hard OW or squeeze where a 6 is nice. Those bolts were nice IMO, but not where I would have put them.
Gear:bring some small stuff for sure, multiple c3's with doubles up to #1 camalot with a 2 and 3 camalot. I did not place a 4, or 5 camalot on this climb. The #6 is pretty critical for the OW unless you are cool running it out. Feb 17, 2013
Sacramento
Chattanooga, TN
We cut the tat off the P5 anchor and added rap rings courtesy of the ASCA. Both bolts are bomber.
We took doubles of green alien to .75 camalot with single Green and Purple C3, and #1 to #6 camalots. If the pro bolts get chopped from p5 you will want a second #6.
The #5 is in a good placement on P4 and very nice to have.
I say this is a 5.10 route for the 5.11 climber. Exciting and stimulating climbing with just enough gear. If you can't do the start of P1 then you shouldn't be on the route.
We rapped with a 70m rope and only needed the tag line to rap p2. You need about 30 feet of cord since the rap is about 40 meters as mentioned above. The rap from P5 is very tight. Tie knots and be ready to clip the anchor below you. Apr 3, 2013
Idaho
Rapped it with an 80M and had ten feet extra on the longest rap. Apr 12, 2013
Boulder, CO
Glad you liked this rig, too, Floyd. Safe anchors rule, amigo. Apr 14, 2013
San Diego, Ca
We brought TCU blue to red and single 0.4-#6 C4s. There are two bolts on pitch 5 that protect the parts of the wider stuff so doubles for the offwidth aren't necessary. I also placed two small nuts on pitch 2 I believe. Having a #5 on pitch 4 does help but not necessary. After a few more moves you can place something, but just a little run out from last pro. I had to bail on the bulge leading into the finger crack and let my buddy switch lead. I have to go back and claim this one. Apr 17, 2013
Tucson, AZ
Bishop, CA
denver, co
If that's the case: They may not have had the balls of the FA's, but they weren't out and out disrespecting them. As was implied.
Should they go? Meh. I think the real question is; at this point does it really matter either way?
josh Nov 5, 2013
All I have to add is that the start can be protected by a #1 lowe ball / slider nut in the top of an 8" hueco that's about 10 feet up.
I am 90% sure this would keep you from tumbling down the starting slabs if you botched the insecure moves that gain the flake.
I put in said piece, then down climbed to the start and gave it some fairly significant bounce testing. Seemed completely solid.
In the interest of full disclosure, my partner then lead pitch 1, as I was a little spooked after 10 minutes of dicking around at the start unable to commit to the move while feeling cold and stiff without warmup. Said move then felt like less than nothing on toprope - naturally.
Pitch 4 is a total hoot. Although we did have a party above us kicking the occasional rock out of P5 into our general direction. That wasn't so hoot-i-ful.
By rights, this route deserves to become a neo-classic. Nov 11, 2013
San Diego, CA
I did P5 without clipping the bolts and used 1x #6, #5 and 2x #3, #1 and I think a #4 or a #2, don't recall which but 7 pieces in 100 or so feet made that pitch very invigorating! If you have a second #5 and/or #6 bring 'em if you want additional pro. Dec 3, 2013
Boulder, CO
That being said the climbing is really good as advertised! May 4, 2014
Moab, UT
For those wusses like me, there is a crack that protects with the same rack 40 feet to the left. We ended up doing this one and it meets up at the same anchor and away we went. There was 1 old pin. The route was slightly dirty but actually fun and totally okay. After leading the remainder of the original start, it was fun, but next time Id definitely still do the alternate crack start. I had a friend take this beta recently and thought it was rad, do with it what you will. cheerio. Mar 19, 2015
Salt Lake City, UT
P1: 5.9 (there are one or two slab moves to the first piece.... nothing to be afraid of)
P2: 5.8 (I have no idea where the 5.10b comes into play)
P3: 5.10 (Consistent 5.10 climbing throughout. Why does this pitch get the easiest grade on the climb?)
P4: 5.10c (finnicky gear, sustained climbing, and a funky crux)
P5: We didn't climb this because we didn't have any big pieces, but it looks like the hardest pitch on the route.
That being said, I guess I'm an Adventure Yuppie.... for now. Oct 24, 2016
val david
vimeo.com/222291859 Aug 14, 2017
Sunnyvale, CA
Colorado
Pitch one is very R rated and not a gimme. You'd get real messed up blowing the starting moves.
Pitch two is a little scary above the pin but you can reach up and get a good stopper for the harder moves. If you're short it could be pretty exciting. I'm not sure how someone would call this pitch 5.8?
Pitch three is really good.
Pitch four is pretty good but pretty hard, 10d I would say. The #5 is real nice on this pitch. The finger crack is very good.
Pitch five is real burly and a little dirty and not that good. Two #6's wouldn't be a bad idea plus a #5. Bolts that were on the pitch are chopped and patched. Real crack climbing is required. How in the world is beny calling this 5.8? I'm calling bullshit.
All anchors are new and stainless.
2nd pitch rap is 40m. We did it by clipping a long cordallete and some over the shoulder slings on and using them as a tag line. All other raps made it with a 70, barely, tie knots!!
Nice location, good but not great climb. Mar 31, 2018
South Salt Lake, UT
Salt Lake City, UT
As with the previous comment, I brought two #4s, one #5, and #6, and started up p5, but found that the #6 was needed within the first 20 feet or so, and looking up from the stance there, it seemed to me that there were going to be several additional long sections where only a 6 would work. Given this, I down-led to the anchor and bailed. Unless you are super-solid on 10+ wide climbing, I'd definitely bring two 6s and maybe even two #5s to comfortably lead that pitch. If you had the gear, it didn't look too bad to me - a nice clean corner and perhaps limited thrutching required.
On the other hand, I thought the p1 start went fine using the aforementioned red and blue ballnuts in the crack in the pictured hueco (I equalized these, but two blue or two reds would probably have worked as well, as the crack in there is pretty long). I also descended to the ground and bounce-tested the heck out of these pieces (there's also a decent gold ballnut placement below these), and they were definitely not going anywhere. Buoyed by this, I scampered back up and finished the pitch pretty easily. The main flake feature on the pitch isn't particularly structurally inspiring at any point, but save for very shallow placements maybe in the thinnest parts of the flake, I do think most gear spots would hold a big whipper given the sheer size and construction of the flake.
Also, there are several options for your belayer to go in direct to good small cracks at the base, so as long as they belay at the base instead of up on the slab below the start, there's no way even a fall with no gear should yank your belayer below the base/down the slabs as other comments have suggested.
Overall, if you have the ballnuts and are generally confident on 10- trad, I do recommend doing this climb (at least the first 4 pitches)! Oct 13, 2019
Shenandoah Junction, WV
1. If you fall before the ledge, the gear is pretty much at your feet so it’s not exactly “runout” per se.
2. The angle is low enough that you’d cheese-grate and probably be moving pretty slowly when the gear caught you, which, I think, makes the pieces blowing less likely.
IMO the climbing above is absolutely, without a doubt, worth it to at least go and check out the start if you climb at the grade. We got chased off after pitch 2 by absurd temperatures and screaming barfies, but were still stoked on the climbing we’d done. Nov 27, 2019
val david
Small video Jan 6, 2021
California
The first pitch “run out” really is no big deal. If you can’t get past the first five metres of 5.9 face/slab without any gear then you may not want to try the other pitches.
I thought that pitch three was by far the best of the first four.
Completely agree with Derek West about the pitch grades.
A route that’s worth doing if you’re in the area. Oct 7, 2021
Las Vegas, NV
Seattle, WA