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Action Candy S 5.10a 6a 18 VI+ 18 E1 5a
After the Gold Rush S 5.11c 6c+ 24 VIII- 24 E4 6a
Back-up Binkie S 5.11+ 7a 24 VIII 24 E4 6a
Bagdhad S 5.13- 7c+ 29 IX+ 29 E7 6c
Basra S 5.12d 7c 28 IX 28 E6 6b
Black Dynamite S 5.12a/b 7b 26 VIII+ 26 E5 6a
Blood Line S 5.11d 7a 24 VIII 25 E5 6a
Bloody Endeavor S 5.12b 7b 26 VIII+ 26 E5 6b
Blue Moon S 5.12a 7a+ 25 VIII+ 25 E5 6a
Brown Trout S 5.11c 6c+ 24 VIII- 24 E4 6a
Bush Doctor S 5.12a 7a+ 25 VIII+ 25 E5 6a
Busload of Faith S 5.14a 8b+ 32 X+ 32 E8 7a
Cannonball S 5.12c 7b+ 27 IX- 27 E6 6b
Cartoon Graveyard S 5.12d 7c 28 IX 28 E6 6b
Come Home Curly S 5.13d 8b 31 X 32 E8 7a
Cutthroat S 5.11d 7a 24 VIII 25 E5 6a
Deadman's Reach S 5.12c 7b+ 27 IX- 27 E6 6b
Elmo's Fish S 5.10d 6b+ 21 VII+ 21 E3 5b
Endeavor to Persevere S 5.13c 8a+ 30 X- 31 E7 7a
Firecracker Kid S 5.10a 6a 18 VI+ 18 E1 5a
Full Moon S 5.12a 7a+ 25 VIII+ 25 E5 6a
Global Warm-Up S 5.10c 6b 20 VII 20 E2 5b
Harvest Moon S 5.11a 6c 22 VII+ 22 E3 5c
Harvest Rush S 5.10b 6a+ 19 VII- 19 E2 5b
House of God S 5.13a 7c+ 29 IX+ 29 E6 6c
HyperNova S 5.12b 7b 26 VIII+ 26 E5 6b
Killer S 5.12c 7b+ 27 IX- 27 E6 6b
King of Hearts S 5.10d 6b+ 21 VII+ 21 E3 5b
Kingdom of Jah S 5.12c 7b+ 27 IX- 27 E6 6b
Moonstone S 5.13b 8a 29 IX+ 30 E7 6c
Mr. Majestyk S 5.13b 8a 29 IX+ 30 E7 6c
Nirvana S 5.13a 7c+ 29 IX+ 29 E6 6c
One Love S 5.13c 8a+ 30 X- 31 E7 7a
Organic S 5.14a/b 8c 33 X+ 33 E9 7b
Pitch Black S 5.12b/c 7b+ 27 IX- 27 E6 6b
Pocket Kalkulator S 5.12b 7b 26 VIII+ 26 E5 6b
Powderfinger S 5.10d 6b+ 21 VII+ 21 E3 5b
Ring of Fire S 5.12c 7b+ 27 IX- 27 E6 6b
Sam I Am S 5.9 5c 17 VI 17 HVS 5a
Samsara S 5.13b 8a 29 IX+ 30 E7 6c
Second Hand Nova S 5.11a 6c 22 VII+ 22 E3 5c
Sign of the Times (First Pitch) S 5.11b 6c 23 VIII- 23 E3 5c
Sign of the Times (pitch 2) S 5.13a 7c+ 29 IX+ 29 E6 6c
Sister Ray S 5.13a 7c+ 29 IX+ 29 E6 6c
Spook Eyes S 5.12b 7b 26 VIII+ 26 E5 6b
Successor, The S 5.13a/b 8a 29 IX+ 29 E7 6c
Sun Spot S 5.11d 7a 24 VIII 25 E5 6a
Sweet Bro S 5.13a 7c+ 29 IX+ 29 E6 6c
Throne, The S 5.13a/b 8a 29 IX+ 29 E7 6c
To the Moon, Alice S 5.12b 7b 26 VIII+ 26 E5 6b
Urchin, The S 5.13a 7c+ 29 IX+ 29 E6 6c
Virga S 5.13c/d 8b 31 X 31 E8 7a
Wield The Scepter S 5.13b 8a 29 IX+ 30 E7 6c
Type: Sport, 60 ft
FA: Established by Paul Piana, FA Matt Lund
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Shared By: Tom Rangitsch on Aug 29, 2008
Admins: Mike Snyder

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Description

Start right of the Killer start. Virga ascendes a line of pockets starting out of an overlap pretty far off the ground (it requires an A0 start). Sequential reaches to good pockets.

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Mike Snyder
Cody, WY
Mike Snyder   Cody, WY  
The American climbing community has such retarded ideals on the "FA" of a sport route. Credit should be given to the person who had the vision and put the time, effort and coin into establishing the route, period. Red tagging for years as Piana and Skinner did, truly robs the rest of us from climbing experiences and as such should be limited. It is overly egotistical and implies ownership of a thing that cannot be owned regardless of the commitment invested. However, the first person to climb a route is significant as well and should also be noted in guidebooks or when relating historical info. It is ridiculous to completely erase the name of the person who created the route when someone else climbs it first.

Having stated this, I changed the credit for this route to show that there were two parties involved in opening this route. Mar 4, 2015
Skyler B
Fort Collins, CO
Skyler B   Fort Collins, CO
Has anybody linked this into the line that traverses over above the anchors of Virga? Feb 19, 2015
Jeremy Noring
Salt Lake City, Utah
Jeremy Noring   Salt Lake City, Utah
Matt's argument was that it had been "closed" for years, if memory serves. I find the "stole the first redpoint" claim somewhat questionable given that consideration. There's got to be some unwritten statute of limitations on a red tag; otherwise the actual theft is from the climbing community as a whole.

Also, the most recent guidebook of Sinks lists Matt as having the FA on this route, as well as Smoke Shapes. Jul 28, 2014
Tom Rangitsch
Lander, WY
 
Tom Rangitsch   Lander, WY
 
This was a closed project of Piana, if memory serves. Just because someone stole the first repoint, and so amazingly on sighted it (wow, 5.13d, that almost never happens!), does not make it their route. Jun 24, 2014
Jeremy Noring
Salt Lake City, Utah
Jeremy Noring   Salt Lake City, Utah
Matt Lund had the FA on this route, not Paul Piana. He onsighted it as well, if memory serves. May 30, 2014