[Hide Comment] Unless the hold that broke off was a bucket - and I mean a bucket, there is no way that this route is 11c/d. While certainly not as sustained, I felt it was harder than any single move on Moat Jump, Against Nature, or Gangland. Perhaps on par with Little Evil or Crimp Chimp? Of course, maybe I'm just weak and seeing as this was my first time on the route, it felt abnormally hard...who knows. Nonetheless, I found the opening sequence to be fun and very bouldery all the way to the third bolt where it merges with the easier upper section of Weenies. I didn't encounter much in the way of choss (thanks Supra?), but if you're arachnophobic, you may want to avoid this as there were about a bazillion monstrous spiderwebs on it. Jul 26, 2009