[Hide Comment] I've heard from V8-V10, don't know myself as I don't send that hard. Jun 26, 2008

[Hide Comment] It would be great if someone could clarify the group of problems on the awesome left arete of Joint Rock. This description of "Longshot" is very different from what is described in Phil's guidebook and from the bits and pieces I've learned from folks bouldering here.

It seems to me that there are several (at least 4) obvious variations. The easiest starts from the sloping dish hold and pulls onto the left slab at the midway point... probably V3ish. Continuing up the full arete from that point makes an awesome high problem (with the aspen in your back), probably V4ish. The problem that sounds similar to what is described here does a sit start and continues out the full arete... probably V5 or V6ish and among the best boulder problems anywhere. Another version traverses right at the midpoint of the arete then does a big dyno to the lip. This last version was called "Longshot" by someone I met there, but looks nowhere near V8. I'm a horrible dynoer so I can't provide any input on the grade of that version. Jul 5, 2008

[Hide Comment] Longshot is at most a V6. Using the arete makes this problem a lot easier. The holds on the face can be used as intermittent holds. No need to crank off them. The last move is very committing, but that doesn't make this a V8-9. It just makes the route committing. Sep 6, 2009