Type: Trad
FA: John Gault, Paul Davidson, Larry Coats, Jim Haisley
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Shared By: JJ Schlick on May 3, 2008
Admins: Luke Bertelsen, JJ Schlick, Greg Opland

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Not Fade Away is a hard gem set against the backdrop of moderates at the Overlook. With the quality movement and good gear this line would be a classic if it were nestled in somewhere on the Davidson wall at the Forks, not to mention where it stands at the Overlook.

The route essentially starts off a ledge 30 feet up. It is the right most striking dihedral (Jungleland being the left). Begin with big long moves with edges and thin jams which lead you to a great rest. From here the climbing gets tougher as you move higher, though there are still decent rests before the crux. At the crux you will have to incorporate powerful stemming, tight balance, and if on lead, a calm head, though the gear is good and the air clean. It is more a matter of rubber and leg tension vs. strength.


Toula, I believe had called this the Jungleland section. It is in between the Trinities to the west and Orangeout section to the east. It is very hard to miss if you are looking for it.


 Small to medium set of wires and offsets, loweballs can be nice. Cams: small to .75 and doubles to triples on some...


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fun short route... Jun 5, 2008
These two corners went by a number of names over the years.
Originally just called The Lines, the right hand side was named The Shining at 11+ A0 (Davidson, Larry Coats, Jim Haisley) and then finally freed by John Gault after working the moves out on a TR.

An easier but rather wild exit on the right side is to bypass the crux by running it out to the right around the corner on a small ramp. We never felt the climb should end up that way so never considered it a real pitch. OTOH, it was a wild lead that way, very exposed and technically challenging just not 12.

The left hand line was done by Grossman and me in 82 when he was up for my wedding. I believe we called it Redrum, 11+ and I think some A0 at the top.

See photo:
mountainproject.com/v/arizo… Oct 7, 2008
Robbie Brown
the road
Robbie Brown   the road
Bring a lot of small gear for an onsight. Jul 6, 2013
Like Aliens? Or small wireds like RPs? Proud onsight! Jul 11, 2013
Robbie Brown
the road
Robbie Brown   the road
I placed 2 lowe balls, 3 offset micro nuts, and allot of cams in the 000-1 c3 range. Jul 11, 2013
A #1 is also quite nice. Jun 28, 2017
Will Wright
Mesa, AZ
Will Wright   Mesa, AZ
Unfortunately this area is the current locus of the main swarm. 30+ wasps. Oct 23, 2017
Austin Kaiser
Flagstaff, AZ
Austin Kaiser   Flagstaff, AZ
Still plenty of wasps on this and Redrum. Mar 20, 2019