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Bill Route T 5.7 5a 15 V+ 13 MVS 4b PG13
Crucible of War, The T 5.7 5a 15 V+ 13 MVS 4b R
Grand Game, The T 5.6 4c 14 V 12 S 4b PG13
Kings and Desperate Men T 5.8 5b 16 VI- 15 HVS 4c
Little Finger T 5.5 4b 13 IV+ 11 MS 4a
Little Finger Direct T 5.7 5a 15 V+ 13 MVS 4b X
Matrix Reloaded T 5.8+ 5b 16 VI- 15 HVS 4c PG13
Matrix, The S 5.8- 5b 16 VI- 14 VS 4c
Parallel Dreams T 5.8 5b 16 VI- 15 HVS 4c
Screaming Matrix T 5.7 5a 15 V+ 13 MVS 4b PG13
Screaming Meaney T 5.8 5b 16 VI- 15 HVS 4c PG13
Still Bill S 5.8 5b 16 VI- 15 HVS 4c
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Type: Trad, 600 ft, 3 pitches
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Shared By: Brian Aitken on Jan 17, 2008
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Description

No real crux moves, pretty straight forward slab/crack climbing. Bring some snacks and beverages to hang out at the base when you're all done - makes a great spot for dinner and a swim, just make sure to pack it out.

Location

Start at the lowest point of the cliff scramble up right 20' above the water - follow the crack system...

Protection

standard trad rack - don't recall any fixed gear. People generally say the route goes between 5.5 and 5.7, so I've rated it 5.6 - I don't recall thinking it was difficult at all, except that my toes were hurting something fierce when I was done...
5.6 it's not. The guidebook rates it at 5.5, and except for a short crux section at the beginning of P3, most of the climbing is much easier than that. Gear is good for most of the route, though there is some pretty hollow rock on P2 and the beginning of P3. Definitely gets hot- lots of sun! Position above the lake is spectacular- one of my favorite climbs for the views alone! Jun 29, 2009
Two ropes make the rap much easier. With one rope you'll be tunneling into the woods to find the next slung tree. Aug 21, 2009
Eli Kramer
Saratoga Springs, NY
  5.5
Eli Kramer   Saratoga Springs, NY
  5.5
Agreed, two ropes if you can. There is a fixed anchor (two pitons) at the end of the first pitch. I didn't use any gear bigger than a .75 Camalot, though you could probably place a #1. Sep 14, 2009
al piner
  5.5 PG13
al piner  
  5.5 PG13
Fun climb with adventurous approach .We took canoes and ended up in 50 degree Lake George when we fell out going ashore to the rocks .Tip: I put my life jacket on my pack because I can swim and it cannot . It worked , no diving for the rack ! A windy rainy October morning but the sun came out and we were semi dry by pitch two .

Pitch one was wet and slippery due to morning rain but was still within its 5.5 rating . Off the third pitch anchors we made it down on two double rope rappels with 60M ropes.The crux was paddling back for a half hour into a 20 mph headwind ! Oct 24, 2009
doligo  
Very fun route. As the book says, there is a real danger of burning the feet of your soles - I did mine! If you don't feel like paddling, you can hitch a ride on a motorboat from Hague Marina. Tourists love it! Jun 14, 2010
Did the route for the 3rd time this past weekend, this time leading the Direct Finish on the 3rd pitch. Guidebook calls it 5.7+, which feels about right. Protects well with small-medium nuts and cams. A beautiful clean line, straight up the crack to bolt anchors. Spices up an otherwise very easy route. Highly recommended. Oct 12, 2010
Kevin Heckeler
Las Vegas, NV
  5.5
Kevin Heckeler   Las Vegas, NV
  5.5
Can't stress enough how much small gear this route will eat up. P1 is a long pitch and while you can (and I did) run it out a bit, by the book G pro placements will likely mean depleting much of your rack. P1 nothing bigger than a #1, but did use a #3 to protect the start of P2, a #1 as a first piece in the crack below the small roof/bulge at the top of the belay for P2, and a #2 on P3. You might be able to climb through these sections to different (smaller) gear, but I felt pretty locked in and the spots I chose seemed 'right'.

Also can't stress how awesome this climb is. Also did the first two pitches on a neighboring Screaming Meaney (5.7 pitches) with awesome moves on the second pitch. All the climbing we did ranked better than Chapel Pond slab, which is to say just how spectacular this location is. 5 star climbing by any measure.

Beware that early season (like my second trip yesterday revealed) means a lot of debris from budding trees in the crack. Spent a lot of time cleaning holds and the crack when placing gear. Jun 20, 2011
Jon Po
Mahwah, NJ
 
Jon Po   Mahwah, NJ
 
Direct finish felt easy for Adirondack 5.7+ Lots of hollow rock on p2.. It's good to belay 15 or 20 below the direct roof because the gear is more solid. I ended up down climbing 15 or so.. Aug 24, 2014
petzl logic
Montreal, QC
 
petzl logic   Montreal, QC
 
Rule #1 bring small gear

Rule #2 read rule number 1 (there are quite a few abandoned cams right now) Sep 1, 2014
I am surprised that more haven't exclaimed ..... the sun !!! The route is positioned to receive, long, powerfull sunshine, and there is a strong possibility you will get fried between 10:00 and 4:00. If it is sunny be prepared !!! And yes, you will probably have an audience from boaters, some even "offer" encouragement. Sep 4, 2014
J. Serpico
Saratoga County, NY
  5.3
J. Serpico   Saratoga County, NY
  5.3
One thing no one has mentioned. The anchors appear to be flat bolts, the type you can rap off of without rings. I didn't know these existed, and my group ended up having a bit more challenging descent than climb. We opted for the rings to the right, rapped to nowhere, and then ended up on a tree with a hidden bolt after ascending back up 40ft. I guess most people know there are flat bolts besides me, but in case you didn't, it's good beta.

As far as the climb. I love slabs so this should be taken with a grain of salt, but I've now led all three pitches over a 12 year span, and I can't even determine where this is 5.5. It's easier than Chapel Pond Slab and it's easier than a lot of 5.4 slabs I've been on. Gear is outstanding once you clean the fall leaves and pine needles out, and there are hands 95% of the time. Coming off the 2nd belay there is a little bit of steep climbing and the gear is below you, but beyond that I think 5.5 is optimistic. All that said, it's a fun day and a fun climb in a great setting. I'd highly recommend it. I don't, however, think it's better than CP Slab.

Next time, I'm definitely going with the 5.7 and some of the adjacent route, which looks fun.

Oh and the sun....the sun even in late October is brutal. I cannot imagine climbing this mid summer on a sunny day. Oct 28, 2014
Bill Kirby
Baltimore Maryland
Bill Kirby   Baltimore Maryland
The rappel is straight forward. There are rings at the top of pitch 3. Two 60M ropes get you about 20 feet below the top of the second pitch. The second rap gets you about level with the top of the first pitch and those rings get you to the ground. 3 rappels total. All stations have rings.

I would say the 5.5 rating is correct. I felt Little Finger was harder than Chapel Pond Slab. Placing gear on Regular Route is casual where my calfs felt it whether placing or cleaning gear on pitch 3 of Little Finger.

Bought doubles .2-.75, one .1, #1 and #2. Left the #3 Jul 1, 2015
Andy Munas
Phoenixville, PA
 
Andy Munas   Phoenixville, PA
 
I brought 4 purple linking cams which were super handy. Didn't bring the #3 Camalot. Could have left the #2 Camalot also. Basically quadruple up in the 0.3 - 0.5 range as other people are suggesting.

We made it to the ground (from the top of the 5.5 finish) in two double 60 meter raps. Such a fun route. Must do. Aug 31, 2015
Gunks Jesse
Shawangunk Township, NY
 
Gunks Jesse   Shawangunk Township, NY
 
Brought (1) .2, doubles .3-.75, (1) 1. Plus set of offsets and FULL set of standard nuts. 14 draws/slings total. Only really needed (2) 60 cm slings at the traverse on P3. Didn't need the 120 cm at all, but used them folded down.

Definitely never needed anything larger than a 1 and found a single placement for the 1 on each pitch. Oct 11, 2015
Benjamin Thompson
Saranac Lake, NY
Benjamin Thompson   Saranac Lake, NY
Fun climb! Did this yesterday (8/9/16) and forgot the sunscreen...bad idea. Anyway as for gear this thing ate up nuts like there was no tomorrow. I think I only placed two or three cams total. Bring a double or maybe even triple set of nuts if you like placing passive gear over plugging cams Aug 10, 2016
Lauren LittleRedClimbingHood
Seattle, WA
  5.5
Lauren LittleRedClimbingHood   Seattle, WA
  5.5
This was a lovely day in a lovely place, but the rock quality is a little suboptimal for a popular, more-or-less straight up-and-down climb. There are a good number of suspicious features like very hollow flakes and loose jugs, and there's not really anywhere to hide from the person climbing above you. Happily, nothing fell while we were there except someone's wallet (he got it back). The gear gets a "G" rating, but I would hesitate sending a new leader up because the placements and even the two gear anchors required more thought than typical cruiser 5.5G, due to rock quality. Depending on your comfort level, extras in small cams can be helpful, but if you don't have quadruple 0.4's, go ahead and bring #1, #2, and #3 because there are some placements that you can make work. The #3 on P2 isn't textbook but would probably hold. Sep 5, 2016
Mikey C
Saranac Lake, NY
Mikey C   Saranac Lake, NY
Sunscreen is aid Feb 5, 2017
El Duderino  
 
An awesome climb in a great location. We rented canoes from the DEC campground at Rogers Rock ($10 parking, $20 rental) and casually paddled over, moored our boat, and started up the crack. I think the first pitch is a pretty good first lead assuming they've mock led before: good exposure, lots of pro and easy climbing punctuated by a few committing moves. The climbing throughout is interesting. It's definitely not a pure crack climb and involves some slab skills, but there's often a good fingerlock in a pod not far away. Climb 180ft to 2 fixed pitons. They are rather far apart from one another, so bring a cordalette. The second pitch has a few tricky moves early on, so put in that Jesus nut. Be careful at the top of P2. There are several fairly large and very hollow flakes that I'm fairly positive could very easily come off with a strong tug. I see this has been an issue for the past few years, so perhaps they're more stable than I think, but this season's freeze thaw cycle may have exacerbated the problem. Be sure to save a few smaller pieces to anchor the solid rock under the roof of P2 and I would not place any load bearing pieces on those flakes. The third pitch, I thought, was the easiest and best of the whole route, despite the traverse under the roof to the cracks, which most people seem to say is the crux. Once you get back into the crack, it's cruiser to the finish. I'd say leave the #3 at home as I placed it once over the whole route and that placement was pretty superfluous. It ate up nuts and smaller pieces, though. Definitely bring the sunscreen as you're likely to get fried, especially in the height of summer. I'd say that this is a shoulder season climb. Rap off the two fixed bolts at the end of P3. Tagging a line may be a pain in the butt on the way up, but I reckon it's worth it to simplify the rappel. We had the whole wall to ourselves on a beautiful spring day and it was another great ADK experience. May 22, 2017
Cidamon GD
woodbury
  5.5 PG13
Cidamon GD   woodbury
  5.5 PG13
will be wet after rain, bring two ropes, bring some smokes, a few jokes, maybe a toke

p1: start at large blocks in finger width crack system leading slab with minimal difficulty, maybe a 5.5 to belay station (2 pitons) directly above. small nuts and cams a must. big butts and moves a certainty.
p2: continue crack system to bowl-like ledge under tiny roof and bulge. make your own anchor in a nice nest-like location. short pitch.
p3: 2 variations - v1 continue to climbers right around bulge and up crack system, very wet after rain, easy moves, great protection, working your way diagonal to rap station with two eye bolts. v2 continue straight above p2 over roof and bulges. although rated a 5.7+ this only has 2 real 5.7 moves with bomber protection. all other moves are 5.4 - 5.5. after bulges route can cut diagonal to rap station. very run out 5.3 slab above bulges, very limited protection. May 29, 2017
Auto-X Fil
NEPA and Upper Jay, NY
Auto-X Fil   NEPA and Upper Jay, NY
Excellent route! The climbing is sustained at 5.3-5.4, except for a couple moves low on P1 and at the start of P3, which are more like 5.5, and the final 4th class romp at the end of P3.

The 2010 Adirondack Rock guidebook shows canoe access closer to the climbs than the main boat launch - this is now gone and replaced with campsites and no drive-in access. You have to paddle all the way from the main launch, which is still a pretty short canoe trip. Beware wind and wakes!

Gear is excellent, especially small to medium nut placements. The loose flakes at the top of P2 are tricky and scary, but if you tiptoe over them, there is good gear under the roof if you have cams or tricams that will fit. A #2 Camalot and yellow Mastercam worked well for me, and I got a pink tricam into the crack below the roof, deep enough to anchor solid rock below the flakes. Other than those flakes, gear placements are abundant and bomber. Swapping leads with a new lead climber and giving them 1 and 3 would work well, especially if you got a Jesus nut in the start of P3 for them.

The climbing is great, with more variety than I expected. There's plenty of positive holds and pure friction to go along with finger-locks and the occasional hand jam. It's one of those routes where it's always a little easier than it looks from below, especially P3.

Rappels are straightforward if you have two 60m ropes - I don't think two 50m would work. Jul 24, 2017
Hobo Greg
My Van
Hobo Greg   My Van
The direct finish is awesome. Do you even direct, brah? Great warmup cuz the feet are similar to the .7s and .8s, but you have hands (fingers, rather) everywhere. Aug 24, 2017
Does anyone take their own small motorboat out to the climbs? Or just kayak/canoe or tourist motorboat? If so, how early could one launch? Aug 30, 2017
Looking for someone to show my son and me the route. I have a canoe that will fit 3 safely.

Please email at markzimpfer@hotmail.com May 24, 2018

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