Type: Sport, 90 ft
FA: Scott Ayers
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Shared By: Braxtron on Feb 6, 2007
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5.hard. Crux comes early in this one.


Just left of Community Service. Trends right at first, then goes straight up (more or less).


Lots o' bolts + anchors at top.


Originally rated .11+, I've always thought this route was as hard or a little harder than The Wizard. Feb 7, 2007
jbak .
jbak .   tucson,az
FA is Scott Ayers, who rated it 11d. Aug 22, 2008
1Eric Rhicard
1Eric Rhicard   Tucson
I would give it two stars if the crux were not so unpleasant as the upper part is good. I did not find it fun to do the crux any of the three times I have done it. I think it is 12- as well. Oct 11, 2008
Ben Venter
Tucson, AZ
Ben Venter   Tucson, AZ
I thought this was harder than the Wizard. I could do all of the moves on the Wizard right away, it just took a while to link them. Whereas this single crux took me a good bit of figuring out before I sent. The moves after the crux are big, positive and fun! Mar 29, 2011
1Eric Rhicard
1Eric Rhicard   Tucson
A few years go by, I get on this again, and I add a star as I enjoyed it the last two times I did it. Mar 12, 2014
Austin Sobotka
Tucson, AZ
Austin Sobotka   Tucson, AZ
Just as good as the wizard, imo. Also harder: the crux is harder and there's two almost no hands rests on the wizard. Upper section is pure fun: big moves between big holds. Jan 4, 2017