Type: Sport, 90 ft
FA: Sam Lightner and Jacob Valdez
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Shared By: Dave Holliday on Dec 19, 2006
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Access Issue: Warning! Stainless steel bolts are suspect near the coast! Details


This route is an easier start to the popular multi-pitch route The King and I. There are two steep bulges that must be surmounted with the first one being the easier of the two. The second crux comes right before the ledge.

If desired, you can continue with the second pitch (and beyond) of The King and I. Note that it's easiest to descend that route with two 60m ropes.


This route is on the right side of the Thaiwand Wall. It's accessed by climbing the bamboo ladder at the base of the wall and then heading up and right to a ledge for about 50 feet. Once on the ledge, you'll see three routes. This is the leftmost of the three.


Bolts. 10 clips. Rappel anchor. A 60m rope is required to lower off this route.


mc kaiser
Lander, Wy
mc kaiser   Lander, Wy
In the 2014 king book this is listed as being right of Fit to be Thai'd. If that's the case, it's closer to 5.11+, moderately sustained, and steeper than it looks from the belay! Sep 24, 2016
Nate Ball
Portland, OR
Nate Ball   Portland, OR  
Judging from the MP descriptions of the three routes on this ledge, the one you are describing is more likely to be Taming the East Sep 25, 2016
mc kaiser
Lander, Wy
mc kaiser   Lander, Wy
Thing is Taming the East starts way right of the line I'm talking about- you have to traverse out from the ledge following a fixed line to get to the belay. Lightner's 2005 guide says the line on the right of the ledge and left of Fit to be Thai'd is the start to the King and I at 5.11d. The grading and topos from these two books seem to agree that whatever is left of Fit to be Thai'd is 5.11d- King calls this line Getting to Know You and Lightner says it's the King and I. Sep 26, 2016