Type: Trad
FA: Bill Todd, 1976. FFA: R. Cashner, A. Morales, 1979.
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Shared By: Blitzo on Oct 20, 2006
Admins: Aron Quiter, Lurker, M. Morley, Adam Stackhouse, Salamanizer suchoski, Justin Johnsen, Vicki Schwantes

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This climb starts 75' left of Off the Wall Pinnacle.
Ascend this right leaning thin crack system to the top. The initial overhanging section is the crux.


Pro to 2.5".


Las Vegas, NV
  5.10b PG13
J W   Las Vegas, NV
  5.10b PG13
this route is pretty good, but if Seams to Me is .10c, this is .10b- although it'd probably clock in at .10c in most areas.

really good, but crispy on the ramp up top- be mindful of the gear. Jul 27, 2009
San Francisco
  5.10a PG13
tallmark515   San Francisco
  5.10a PG13
Lieback up a ramp with gear options behind crispy, then flakes. Be a confident 5.10 leader if you plan to climb this route, falling on your gear from the crux could easily cause the rock to blow.

Soft for the book grade of .10b and certainly not .10c Sep 28, 2010
Peter Valchev
Truckee, CA
  5.10b PG13
Peter Valchev   Truckee, CA
  5.10b PG13
Fun climb but not near as good as "Seams to Me" next door. Nice warm-up as it's not sustained compared to the neighbouring routes but yeah, don't fall through the crispy section (it didn't seem as bad as I expected however). Do the direct start, it's awesome even if only a couple of moves! (that's the short 5.10b, the upper part is 5.9/10a) Aug 20, 2012
J. Hickok
Salida, CO
  5.10 PG13
J. Hickok   Salida, CO
  5.10 PG13
Good start through clean rock, but the upper two thirds was not very good in my opinion. The upper half consisted of lackluster laybacking with less than desirable gear - neither very fun to protect or really that interesting to climb compared to other routes. Aug 16, 2013
Johnny Y
Johnny Y   California
Started on the vertical thin hand to finger crack beside the giant hollow flake, I would avoid pulling on it Jul 14, 2014