Type: Trad, 50 ft
FA: John Bronaugh, Alex Yeakley, Miguel and Dario Ventura
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Shared By: Chris Chaney on Oct 12, 2006
Admins: saxfiend, Jason Halladay, Shirtless Mike

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Stem and layback the obtuse dihedral to an awkward mantel onto the sloping ledge


When the approach trail nears the wall, bear left and scramble up a slipper slope to a talus ledge on the main corner.

Father and Son is the obtuse dihedral just left of the main corner.


TCUs, smaller cams up to hand sized
Rappel anchors on the ledge


Tony B
Around Boulder, CO
Tony B   Around Boulder, CO
I know that John named this route at least in part due to having taken Miguel and Dario on it together, but I always wondered if there was connection to the Cat Stevens song by this title as well. Jul 7, 2008
NickinCO   colorado
great lead with stoppers only. May 23, 2011
Jeff Christbaum
Muskego, WI
Jeff Christbaum   Muskego, WI
A fun climb with plenty of lay-back action. Primary pro were cams. May 1, 2012
Great intro lead. Running it with just stoppers is fun too. Jul 11, 2012
Approach: There are iron re-bar foot ladders to step up about 6 feet. On your right about 100 feet is father and sons.

great easy no brainer no panic great gear great feet climb Jun 16, 2014
polloloco   Boston
My first trad lead. Great placements and stances! Had plenty of passive placement opportunities. Sep 17, 2014
Michael Mahoney
Gillette, WY
Michael Mahoney   Gillette, WY
I needed small cams to lead this. Fun climb that I wish was longer! Oct 8, 2014
Jay Morse
Hooksett, New Hampshire
Jay Morse   Hooksett, New Hampshire
Would make for a great first lead. Soft in the grade and extremely well protected. May 17, 2018