Type: Trad, 80 ft
FA: Pete Charkin, Alan Roberts & Bruce Howatt, 1985
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Shared By: Graham Roff on Apr 10, 2006
Admins: C Miller, Greg Opland, M. Morley, Adam Stackhouse, Salamanizer suchoski, Justin Johnsen, Vicki Schwantes

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The most obvious line on this formation, this is a fun route with the crux at the top.
Climb up an easy hand crack then pull through on solid face holds to the slighly off-width trough. Struggle through the pod as the route gets harder and harder until a nice jug presents itself just over the roof (5.10b).
Pull the overhang on big holds to easier terrain to the top.


Pro is excellent up the entire route. Nuts and cams in the .5" to 3" range. Gear anchor (shared with "Balance Due") with an easy walk-off to the climber's left.


San Diego, CA
Taryn   San Diego, CA
Very fun route. The moves into and over the overhang are great. There is a rap anchor up top, which you can use for a number of climbs on this wall. Mar 19, 2007
Tyler Williams
Flagstaff, AZ
Tyler Williams   Flagstaff, AZ
Does anybody know what was up with the old guidebook rating of 10d? did something fall off revealing a bigger hold? a typo? felt soft even for 10b. Mar 25, 2011
Newport Beach
Donno   Newport Beach
I think the '92 guide has a typo in the text because the photo has the crux marked properly as "10b". Apr 20, 2011
This is the line to do on this formation, good gear all the way to a juggy finish. I also felt it was a bit soft for 10b. Feb 13, 2012
One of the longer continuous cracks that I know of in J-Tree -- definitely worth the short-ish but steep scramble up the gully. Mar 23, 2012
susan peplow
Joshua Tree
susan peplow   Joshua Tree
Great fun, rack for thin hands and fingers with a 4" cam for the mid-way pod. Upper section getting to the roof can be awkward if you're putting all your bacon in there as I did. Pulling the roof was not the crux or really requiring gear. 20+ years of climbing in Josh and my first trip to Hidden dome. Why? Nov 14, 2013
Seth Hogan
Frisco, Co
Seth Hogan   Frisco, Co
Definitely don't need a number 4. There is plenty of gear to be had the entire route, with potential for smaller than .3 cams if you're short on the mid sized stuff. I felt this was a little soft for 10b and that the roof was certainly not the crux with solid jugs all over it. Super awesome climb. I'd go back to do it again. Dec 4, 2016
Dustin Stephens
Dustin Stephens  
About as good as cragging gets Dec 5, 2017