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High start (may have to stack pads if you're shorter) on good holds. Big move up to a right-hand decent hold then up to the cross. Another big move then top out to the left. High and scary, but super fun.


The cross-shaped hold is an obvious landmark that you are on the right problem.


crash pads and spotters (and a prayer).


Bill Bones  
I would call this a little more stiff than V3. I started at the undercling and found it to be about the harder V4 range. Even a soft V5 Dec 13, 2008
Randall Gann
Albuquerque, NM
Randall Gann   Albuquerque, NM
The V scale was originated at Hueco by John "Vermin" Sherman, et al (note the V of the nickname). His now older, but very thorough guide to Hueco clearly states "The standard problems for each grade are here so nobody can complain that Hueco Tanks problems are over or under rated." The Verm lists Sign of the Cross as THE standard for V3 in his explanation of the scale. No doubt Sign of the Cross is burly, but no matter what V3 may have become elsewhere, Sign of the Cross is V3. Jan 14, 2009
Morrison, CO
Monomaniac   Morrison, CO  
I have no idea if Sign of the Cross is soft or hard, but....

...while Verm's notion is quaint, rock breaks, holds get polished, new sequences are discovered. Route grades are not steady-state, they change over time. Some routes get harder over time, some get easier (some stay the same?).

Jan 14, 2009
kyber   Portland
hard to say on this one, within the vicinity theres skimmer (V3) and sign of the choss (v4). this climb is surely harder than skimmer and definitely easier than choss.. Feb 9, 2010
Hoez   Uganda
dude this is not even close to a v5

your ego has probably just been sorely bruised from Hueco Tanks... Its ok - it happens to everybody

You gotta remember that the V grading system was invented here - like Randall said. Its V3, period..

Those moves are not 5.12a (V4) - its just deceiving because all the holds are very uneven. If your unsure - cruise the line about 4 or 5 times, get the beta down - and then I think that youll agree its V3. Mar 16, 2010
CP Phx
CP Phx  
Definitely V3...I think you'll see why if you read Verm's book "Better Bouldering" where the V-scale is explained. The mental aspect and the sharpness of the rock should not be taken into account (that 2nd hold hurts); so just the physicality of the movements is V3. Dec 17, 2010
Michael Day
Boulder, CO
Michael Day   Boulder, CO
Although I don't consider myself much of a boulderer per say, my ego and my fingers were quite damaged at Hueco Tanks (in a good way).

There is no doubt about the true grading system they have established. I've climbed so many "gimme" problems that appealed to my strengths elsewhere, I actually thought I was in the V6-V7 Range. Hueco knocked me down to V3-V4 range and forcefully showed me that building a base of lower grades before pushing to the next is very beneficial to one's overall climbing abilities. Regardless of the humble experience, this route was one of my crowning achievements and I'm very proud to have gotten the flash! Jun 26, 2013
Denver, CO currently
A-K   Denver, CO currently
For the uninitiated....

youtube.com/watch?v=aoxwjLd… Aug 16, 2016
Crownjun _
Crownjun _  
Mayyyyybe this is V3, but the standard for V3?? The word "standard" to me means other V3s should be similar in difficulty and maybe even style. If anything, it's a power and height-dependent testpiece for V3, not the standard. Still ultra-classic and the epitome of Sherman's style of boulders. Nov 7, 2018
Owen S.
Owen S.   LA
For what it counts, totally agree with Crownjun. If this is the benchmark standard for V3 at hueco, then the majority of the V4s there need to be downgraded. I can only conclude that this boulder fits Sherman's style to a T. Jan 8, 2019
Ashley Swenson
Pasadena, CA
Ashley Swenson   Pasadena, CA
Sign of the Cross, Lower Start Variation (V4)

youtu.be/5i8MpvhBLtI Mar 18, 2019