[Hide Comment] I think that this is solid 12b for people under 6'. I hav eheard taller people say that it is really easy (10 - 11) because they reach straight to the next good hold from under the roof. It takes me 4 (strenuous) moves to get there. After the roof, this can't be 5.6. Oct 6, 2006

[Hide Comment] ya, 2 stout moves. Easy 2nd clip, although it looks hard from the ground. I think there are better 12b's in the canyon. Apr 22, 2010

[Hide Comment] I'm 5'9" and 54 years old and I onsighted this.....think hand jam in the crack under the roof to make the reach to the good three finger pocket. Probably more like 12a, unless short, but a fun route nonetheless. Jan 4, 2015

[Hide Comment] Once you pass the 3rd bolt the climbing goes at 5.9 or easier. Fun bouldery crux down low. Optional finish on jill and drill to the left. (this problems anchors are 2 glue ins, whereas Jill and drill are mussy hooks.) there are great pockets down low, altho it can take a few tries to figure proper shorter person beta (under 5’10”) Oct 10, 2021