Type: Trad, 60 ft
FA: EFR,JSt,'06
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Shared By: 1Eric Rhicard on Feb 26, 2006
Admins: Luke Bertelsen, JJ Schlick, Greg Opland

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5.9/10+ This route has been set up so you can do the 5.9 crack then lower off from chains or go through the bolted 5.10 upper headwall and lower off. This splitter crack starts on the right side of the formation now being called The Griddle. It is around the corner and can't be seen when looking at the wall itself. A short slightly grungy section leads to a ledge. A few dihedral moves get you to about 25 feet of great finger crack. If you climb past the first chains you will be on the 5.10 upper headwall.


Mostly finger sized stoppers and cams although a big cam will give you some peace of mind getting to the first ledge.
English Breakfast: Is the perfect introduction to 5.9 trad climbing.It may be short,but it has "Star Quality" crack climbing that is well protected and also make's a great TR.If the approach was twice as far,I'd still hike up to do this climb alone.Thank's to Eric and Jim for putting this climb up! Mar 3, 2006
Las Vegas, NV
E IV   Las Vegas, NV
The bottom half of the route felt very easy for 5.9 (compared to say, any of the 9's on Chimney Rock, or Forest Lawn in Cochise) so I'd give it an 8 because of one move down low. The gear is straight-forward and is small to medium. Biggest piece I used was a .4 camalot. If this crack was 100 feet long it would be classic anywhere. Dec 13, 2008
Jon Ruland
Tucson, AZ
Jon Ruland   Tucson, AZ
soft for 5.9, stiff for 5.8. let's call it 5.c. lulz. Jan 27, 2009
randy baum
Minneapolis, MN
randy baum   Minneapolis, MN
the bottom section is suprisingly splitter for mt. lemmon. the top 5.10 section is fun, but tricky. some of the holds are a bit hard to find!

i give the bottom section 3 stars; the top 2. Jan 4, 2010
dale polen
arivaca, az
dale polen   arivaca, az
Great climb. tHE CRACK IS PROBABLY ONLY 5.7. NO HARDER NO WAY. the top is difficult to figure out. do you go straght up to the left of the bolt. or do you wuss out and go left further from the bolt to the better holds. I am not sure which is the correct path. Nov 30, 2010
Sorry Dale, in the future we'll rate every bit of trad stuff a grade below what we think is, so you don't get upset, and make sure we chalk the holds on the harder sports stuff so you don't get confused.

You led Solar Flare yet? Love to hear how hard you think that is.

Geir led Solar E-Clips on gear, you should do that too so we know how hard we should rate that.

Then go up and lead Red Dwarf, if I have to change the ratings on all the trad routs at Sunspots I want to do all at once.


Nov 30, 2010
Jon Ruland
Tucson, AZ
Jon Ruland   Tucson, AZ
so what's the deal, some people are just going to grade half the climb and the rest are going to grade the whole thing? that seems a little misleading. actually that seems like utter chaos.

can we not grade the climb if haven't done the whole thing, please? kthxbai. Dec 1, 2010
Don't ask me, ask Dale. Dec 1, 2010
Steve Pulver
Williston, ND
Steve Pulver   Williston, ND
I had to google kthxbai and found this cute kitty

We need some people to rate the upper part and not the lower part to even it out. Dec 2, 2010
Charles Vernon
mind & body in Colorado, he…
Charles Vernon   mind & body in Colorado, he…
There, that should do it. Dec 3, 2010
David Adams  
That crack is a Mt. Lemmon gem! I wish it went on forever. Dec 15, 2013
I led the bottom section for my first ever trad lead. Awesome crack! Excellent first trad lead. You can lace this thing up with lots of easily placed bomber gear. Almost too good of a first trad lead because I never felt like I wanted to crap my pants at any points or have a meltdown and cry, which is more how I envisioned my first trad lead going. Probably not going straight to troll wall next weekend. Feb 2, 2014
Mike Kane
Tucson, AZ
Mike Kane   Tucson, AZ
Tommy, you made me laugh since I had the same feeling after climbing this thing :) This was probably the least scary trad climb I've done on Mt Lemmon (or in general since I'm not a tradster) Nov 4, 2015