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Routes in Primo Wall

Battle With a Bush T 5.9 5c 17 VI 17 HVS 5a
Breakfast Club S 5.12a 7a+ 25 VIII+ 25 E5 6a
City Slickers S 5.12a 7a+ 25 VIII+ 25 E5 6a
Crying Flyboys S 5.13a 7c+ 29 IX+ 29 E6 6c
Doomsday Birthday T 5.8 5b 16 VI- 15 HVS 4c
Eternal Recurrence S 5.14a 8b+ 32 X+ 32 E8 7a
Flying Child S 5.13a 7c+ 29 IX+ 29 E6 6c
Flying Cowboys S 5.12d 7c 28 IX 28 E6 6b
Grim Aura S 5.13d 8b 31 X 32 E8 7a
Groan Up S 5.11c 6c+ 24 VIII- 24 E4 6a
Halle-Bop S,TR 5.10d 6b+ 21 VII+ 21 E3 5b
Hangman S 5.12b 7b 26 VIII+ 26 E5 6b
Hooves! T 5.9+ 5c 17 VI 17 E1 5a
Inner Gorilla S 5.12d 7c 28 IX 28 E6 6b
Killer Pillar S,TR 5.10b 6a+ 19 VII- 19 E2 5b
Less Happy Fun Time S 5.13c 8a+ 30 X- 31 E7 7a
Mildage S 5.11c/d 7a 24 VIII 25 E4 6a
Mirthmobile S,TR 5.10a 6a 18 VI+ 18 E1 5a
Moving Out S 5.12b 7b 26 VIII+ 26 E5 6b
Portrait in Flesh S 5.14a 8b+ 32 X+ 32 E8 7a
Portraits of Gorillas S 5.13b 8a 29 IX+ 30 E7 6c
Primetime To Shine S 5.14b 8c 33 X+ 33 E9 7b
Primeval S 5.14a 8b+ 32 X+ 32 E8 7a
Problem Child S 5.13b 8a 29 IX+ 30 E7 6c
Public Play S 5.13c 8a+ 30 X- 31 E7 7a
Public Solitude S 5.13 8a 29 X- 30 E7 6c
Public Suck Shine S 5.13c 8a+ 30 X- 31 E7 7a
Relative To Standing S 5.11- 6c 22 VIII+ 22 E3 5c
River Run S 5.13b 8a 29 IX+ 30 E7 6c
Shine S 5.14a 8b+ 32 X+ 32 E8 7a
Squeeze Play S 5.13b 8a 29 IX+ 30 E7 6c
Squeezing My Will to Live S 5.13a 7c+ 29 IX+ 29 E6 6c
Suburban Cowgirls S 5.11+ 7a 24 VIII 24 E4 6a R
Sucking My Will to Live S 5.12c 7b+ 27 IX- 27 E6 6b
Sucking My Will to Squeeze S 5.13a 7c+ 29 IX+ 29 E6 6c
Super Happy Fun Time S 5.14b/c 8c+ 34 XI- 34 E9 7b
Suspended Sentence S 5.12b 7b 26 VIII+ 26 E5 6b
Tater Tot S 5.13b 8a 29 IX+ 30 E7 6c
Type: Sport
FA: equipped by Steve Damboise/ Peter Beal, FFA Peter Beal
Page Views: 2,195 total, 12/month
Shared By: Peter Beal on Apr 23, 2002
Admins: Leo Paik, John McNamee, Frances Fierst, Monty, Monomaniac

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Description

Eternal Recurrence is the route right of Primeval. Start with a difficult, short groove that leads to the big, central shelf. Sit down and rest. Then tackle the upper bulge by traversing back left to a very difficult move to the obvious rail. A technical and balancy rockover leads to the final groove and the anchors. I'm not grading this, because to me the route is really two roped boulder problems with a sit-down rest in between, the first being V9/10 and the upper being solid V10. Since others may find these sections easier, as happened with Primeval, or find a way around them, as with Shine, I won't be more specific.

(Now that this route has gone eight years without a repeat, I am upgrading it to 5.14a in the hope that it will gain more traffic and there will emerge a better consensus on the difficulty)

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8 bolts/anchors.

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Jonathan Siegrist
his truck
 
Jonathan Siegrist   his truck
 
I have been curious about this pitch for years and finally adventured my way up it today. It was not at all straightforward climbing - both cruxes are perplexing. Personally I found the bottom half to be much harder than the upper half. Definitely worthwhile. Get to it while it has (a little) chalk on it! Oct 22, 2016
Jay Samuelson
Denver CO
Jay Samuelson   Denver CO
To whomever left their Petzel draws on Eternal Recurrence: I removed them the other day and put them on other routes that had worse hardware on them. If you want them back, they're on Shine and Crying Flyboys. I'm sorry if this is a huge inconvenience for you, but after they had been hanging for a year, a few of us decided they would be better served on other routes that see more traffic but have a few bad draws. But my guess is whomever draws these are will never come back and probably does not care. Mar 14, 2013
Peter Beal
Boulder Colorado
 
Peter Beal   Boulder Colorado
 
Thanks, Chris. It's a strange one. Apr 11, 2010
Peter, this route seems pretty brutal. I did the moves on the upper, but before the ledge... wow, ouch, and geez. Nice job. Apr 11, 2010
Peter Beal
Boulder Colorado
 
Peter Beal   Boulder Colorado
 
Good luck, Luke. I think with this snow it may take a while to dry. Let me know if you need any beta. Oct 31, 2009
Hey Peter,
I have looked at Eternal Recurrence since before even "Shine" was bolted and always thought it to be an interesting looking line... possibly even my style.

It's a good possibility I will be over at "Primo" in the morning and I'm going to put a little chalk on that bad boy just for your efforts!!! I will let you know how it goes. Oct 31, 2009
tcamillieri
Denver
tcamillieri   Denver
...or the next year, or the year after that...or after that. Sep 25, 2008
Peter Beal
Boulder Colorado
 
Peter Beal   Boulder Colorado
 
I don't think it's seen a repeat or even much work. Every time I've been up there this year there hasn't been any chalk. Jul 2, 2003
Does anyone know if this route has been repeated? Thanks. Jun 23, 2003