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On Rincon wall, this system is just to the right of Over The Hill and in a few ways is like it's harder twin. Like Over the Hill, this route shoots up a nice dihedral before splitting off right to a little splitter crack. There are some differences though - the crux isn't a few moves between good fixed pins.

On Rincon wall there are several dihedrals on the left hand side. Aerial Book is the most obvious of these. Over The Hill is just to the left, and on the right the bolted arete, Aerospace is obvious. It is the large dihedral prominent on the left hand side of the attached photo.

Climb a short pitch, stemming and smearing up the dihedral (10d). The holds and gear on this pitch are both thin, but the climbing is more insecure than it is actually hard. The crux is probably about halfway up, at a strange sidepull on the right side of the corner. After about 60 feet, a fixed pin belay is convenient. The belay is visible from the ground.

From the belay, move up and right past a few huecos and onto an obvious, diagonal crack and seam (5.7?) past a tiny tree on the face (visible in photo), to reach a vertical splitter just up and right of the tree. The vertical splitter is supposedly the 11a crux pitch, but it is well-protected and not sustained. I believe crux pro was a pink tricam, but a small TCU or a nut would work, too. After the crux, the route climbs up and left to a fixed rap on a large pine tree.

This route can be TR'd from the large pine with a 70m rope if a directional was placed in the top of the crux fingercrack. A 60m will leave you with perhaps 15' of 5.4 climbing to get on belay. This tree can also be reached by scrambling to the right of the top of the second pitch of Over The Hill, Emerald City, Over and Out, etc....

I was a little surprised to see that this classic had not been previously entered.


Mostly smaller gear, including 2 sets of mixed brass, but a few TCUs to 1.5" or tricams.

Consider Ballnuts or another slider nut (small) or take Crack n' Ups as Rossiter suggests if you really want more dubious protection. I tried this and got a few in, but they are not very strong.

I have [noted] this route as S as the first pitch dihedral does go some distance between very small pieces.
From the crack go up and left to reach the tree belay described above. You may also go slightly right from the top of the crack and continue straight up the headwall past two bolts (5.11) to a double bolt anchor. If you use long runners you can do this whole route in one STELLAR 160 ft pitch.TF Feb 14, 2002
Tony's right about the S rating for the first pitch. It protects but with pretty small gear, Lowe Ball Nuts work ok. The 11a bit actually seems more mellow than the first pitch because the pro is quite good. But then, I've always thought that hard 5.10 (10d) was way more difficult than easy 11 (11a), if you know what I mean. Apr 5, 2002
Correction: the route climbs up and LEFT after the crux to a tree. A 60m chord will NOT reach the ground from this tree. A rappel comes-up 15 feet short but will deposit you on moderate downclimbing terrain. Knot the ends of your rope! The TR rig will come-up even shorter due to the directionals left by the leader. Pack a double shoulder length sling, .75 and #1 Cam for a directional in the diagonal ramp immediately after the crux. It's worth mentioning again...knot the end of your chord for top-roping! May 6, 2002
Tony B
Around Boulder, CO
Tony B   Around Boulder, CO
I left my 60m on it for a buddy, and it reached. It was close, not all 60m are the same length, so your mileage may vary. May 6, 2002
Bryson Slothower
Portland, OR
Bryson Slothower   Portland, OR
We also rapped to the ground with a 60m rope with no down climbing. I'd call the 1st pitch the crux lead but both pitches are three star quality. May 5, 2003
Add the third pitch of Over The Hill for even more fun. May 30, 2003
Ivan Rezucha
Fort Collins, CO
Ivan Rezucha   Fort Collins, CO
I had good but small gear for P1, and closely spaced, except for the last couple of (slightly easier) moves. Except for the last few moves, the "runout" has the gear at about your knees at the worst. For the thin section, this is what I used:

Small RP/HB (#2?) w/screamer, Red ballnut. Another small RP/HB (#2?) w/screamer, Blue ballnut. I fell several times (at least) on this.

At this point you are standing on the big white crystal. The hard moves are the next few moves to get to the good handhold on the left arete where you get a decent stem.

#5 Crack'n Up (haven't used these for maybe 20 years). Buried. Thought this was excellent, and certainly strong enough. #2(?) Crack'n Up a little higher. OK but not great.

The P2 crux is at the very top of the crack. Felt quite hard (ie, fell a bunch), but it was very cold. Thin fingers could help a lot. I was expecting a finger crack, but it was more like a "fingerless" crack for me. Feb 28, 2004
Keith Leary
Broomfield, CO
Keith Leary   Broomfield, CO
My partner led both pitches in 1. I 2nd it and felt the corner was a lot easier than the finger crack. If I would have led it, I might not have said that. Jul 21, 2004
P1 protects reasonably well with a big Camalot and yellow/red Alien before any of the small wires. A couple of #3 RPs protects the stemming. Small wires and a couple of blue Aliens protect he tips crack. Giddy up!

The link would seem to be Aerial Book into P2 of Aeorspace and then finsih on Aeronaut. I am definitely trying this next time. Aug 22, 2004
Guy H.
Fort Collins CO
Guy H.   Fort Collins CO
There is a 20ft runout on 5.8 jugs on the second pitch. You basically can't get any pro until you hit the small tree on the face. The finger crack is a lot easier if you have 2 sets of small cams. Just plug and go....

The first pitch probably does not deserve a "s" rating, if you can hang out and place the gear. A #2 and #3 Ballnut are useful to sewn it up. You can grab the good hold on the left with gear at your feet. Dec 16, 2005
1Eric Rhicard
1Eric Rhicard   Tucson
I lead just the first pitch of this route in the seventies using Crack-n-ups for pro and EBs for shoes. This route is memorable as are many scary gear leads. As much as I love and do sport few will be remembered after 30 years. Mar 13, 2006
Richard Radcliffe
Louisville, CO
Richard Radcliffe   Louisville, CO
Fantastic! Two very different sections, both of which are of the highest quality. I agree with the above comment that the crux is at the top of the finger crack. The feet seem to get thinner and thinner the higher you go. Definitely on my list of top 5 Eldo climbs... Oct 5, 2006
Steven Lucarelli
Moab, UT
  5.11a PG13
Steven Lucarelli   Moab, UT
  5.11a PG13
The first pitch can be protected with up to three #3 BD Micro Stoppers and they are all bomber. Two of the placements are bottlenecked in and the other one is nice and solid, just set it a little. Jun 16, 2008
George K. Watson
Nederland, CO
George K. Watson   Nederland, CO
Small RPs protect the first pitch quite well, the Crack-'n-up thing should be put to rest. Carry 2x #3 RPs and a #2 and some other really small wireds and you will be fine.
The second pitch is among my favorites in the area. Jul 5, 2010
Is the route description correct here? I think from the belay at the first pins in the corner you move up and RIGHT to the little tree. Then, after climbing the crux finger crack you move back LEFT to the big tree in the corner. There is now a bolted belay in the corner near the tree, but it is a rope stretcher with a 70m, so be careful. Apr 3, 2011
Boulder, CO
  5.11a PG13
tooTALLtim   Boulder, CO
  5.11a PG13
I thought the stemming on Over the Hill was more demanding than P1. I'd even go so far and say maybe .10- compared to Over the Hill's second P1 crux.

The RPs are fantastic, just take down to a #3 BD RP. I brought smaller RPs, but they were unnecessary/not small enough to go in the crack inches above the BOMBER #3 RP.

The beta scared me off this climb for a while, but it's not as bad as everyone makes it out to be! May 26, 2011
Tommey-James   Boulder,Colorado
Awesome climb. Lead each pitch separately (linking would be easy).

Pitch 1 - 10a/b IMHO definitely not an R pitch, and probably not even a PG-13 pitch. The bottem section is easy and protectable with 2, 3, 4, and/or 5 (I used a 2 & 4). Then base of the stemming section can be protected with an orange TCU (or similar) and a small nut. Then you launch into the stemming section I had only 1 each 2 & 3 RP and felt perfectly safe. If you had 2 or 3 # 3 RPs, this would be pretty much sewn up. Mind you you do have to climb 8 ft above this pro, but the climb eases as you go higher.

Pitch 2 - Great, easily protected. No 5.8 runout at the top. I read that you should bring double set of small cams, not true in the least. I has one blue TCU and BD nuts (8-4) and had bomber pro the whole way. This is for sure a nut climb and not a cam climb. Jul 11, 2011
Boulder, CO
michalm   Boulder, CO
Linking both pitches up with the top of Aerospace was one of the best single rope length linkups I have done in Eldo. A single rope rap with an 80m from the anchors on top of Aerospace will exactly reach the ground at the base of P1. P1 felt pretty safely sewn up with a 0.5 C4, a #4 stopper, and 4 RPs in the upper dihedral (2 #3, 1 #2, 1 #1). I didn't even use a ballnut. If you have small RPs, this is a pretty safe, PG lead as you will not be more than a couple moves above your gear at the crux. Using long runners will allow the rope to run almost straight up through the P2 finger crack. The 5.8+ face climbing above P2 is pretty exciting as there are 2 bolts in 50 feet. Dec 14, 2014
Patrick Vernon
Estes Park, CO
  5.11a PG13
Patrick Vernon   Estes Park, CO
  5.11a PG13
I think this pitch definitely deserves a PG-13 rating. This is far from sewn up through the crux. It is committing and insecure climbing above small gear. Even when you get the jug on the left in the dihedral, there is another 10 feet of .10a with slick feet and no pro. Probably low probability for injury in a fall off the stemming crux, but this is no clip up! I only had one #3 RP and had to punch it above a so so #2. Classic Eldo climbing, one of the nicest .11a pitches in the canyon. Dec 24, 2016
D. Snyder
Golden, CO
D. Snyder   Golden, CO
Such a good pitch! Led this today as one pitch and thought the corner was comparable to OTH. I have a lot of small steel nuts that fit very well in the seam, so I don't think that's where it rates a PG-13. The traverse over to the finger crack from the 1st pitch belay was easy, but that's where the "no fall zone" is for me. Mar 21, 2017