Type: Trad, Alpine, 6 pitches
FA: Larry Dalke perhaps?
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Shared By: Steve "Crusher" Bartlett on Feb 4, 2002
Admins: Leo Paik, John McNamee, Frances Fierst, Monty, Monomaniac

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Route-finding is vague, protection dicey in places (in fact nearly everywhere) but this is a great line up a proud buttress; actually one of the tallest and best-looking buttresses in the whole RMNP. In addition, this route has a fairly short approach, (you can watch all the bumblies heading up for the Petit Grepon) and best of all a solid southern exposure; you may end up lost and frightened and unable to retreat, but at least you'll be nice and warm.

P1. The first pitch is obvious and easy, up a chimney/crack/slab to a large ledge.

P2-3. The next two pitches are pretty indeterminate but basically take you into the obvious, huge, shallow dihedral/groove way up and right. Check out Rossiter's High Peaks book for more details. The climbing on pitch two, as I recall is pretty runout, vertical 5.8 mostly on great jugs (but worryingly above the large belay ledge), requiring some care with navigation (lest you end up on much harder ground). This is like the best of the Petit Grepon climbing, but steeper (and definitely no crowds). Once in the long dihedral, you may expect that there'd be lots of yummy gear in the crack in the back, but alas this is not the case. . . . Luckily the stone is immmaculate. Anyway, follow the dihedral to the top of the huge pillar. Even here the gear is not so easy to find.

P4. From here, various ways tackle the imposing headwall. Apparently one can go straight up. Good luck. I led out to the right, until I gained a ledge about thirty feet away. Very exposed here! A coffin-sized/shaped block sits on this small ledge.

P5. From here, a nice but short crack leads to some loose-looking blocks. Angle rightwards to avoid the blocks (I recall a very welcome #1.5 Friend somewhere here in a slot), and wander upwards (butt-clenching exposure!) upwards to finally pull onto the shoulder.

P6. One more pitch, easy, from here to the real summit.

Six looooong pitches, continuously absorbing, with a serious feel; one of the coolest routes I've done in the Park.


Bring Aliens (or similar), lots of wires including RPs, one or two sets of cams up to 3". Many runners for extending pieces to avoid rope drag, double ropes.
Thanks for the excellent writeup, Crusher. I've admired this route since doing the Kor route eons ago but never got on it. Absolutely classic line in your description:

"you may end up lost and frightened and unable to retreat, but at least you'll be nice and warm."

Chris Lesher Feb 5, 2002
Great rock, minimal gear, and pretty easy to get to when the rest of the park has snow in early season is the good news. The bad news is we could figure out where the heck we were supposed to be as we got up near the top, and judging from the tat collection we weren't the first to experience that problem.

I believe Rossitor calls the cruxy stuff "5.9 or harder" and it sure is. After climbing this you will appreciate and take notice some of the routes put up by Dalke in the Boulder area.

I too remember the 2nd pitch being a 5.8 edge fest with little pro. You probably should be comfortable being 30 feet above a big ledge with no gear to climb this pitch. You get a good larger (#1?) camalot right as the angle eases off and you don't need it anymore.

The rock is quality on the first four pitches was really good, but we got lost somewhere up top and ended up going to the left. Somewhere above pitch 4 the dihedral faded away out and then the gear ran out. We traversed to the right first, and after some hard runout climbing we ended up bailing back to the top of pitch 4 (or maybe 5?). From that point we were able escaping to the left, which left some steep, loose and interesting 5.9 simulclimbing to beat the sunset.

The decent off the back involved picking through wet, loose cliff bands to a snowfield (probably late season talus). It was pretty trivial in the daylight, but I wouldn't want to do this in the dark.

The rock and climbing were good enough that I plan to take a crack at it again though.

Feb 20, 2002
Randy Slavin
Randy Slavin  
Did this in August, and the temps were absolutely balmy. This route is now my favorite 5.9 in RMNP. Better than the Kor route on the Saber. Big Air and very thoughtful climbing. Kinda runout in places.

Should be more popular than it is, as it is bigger, steeper and more spectacular IMHO, than the Petit. The last steep pitch that traverses up and right from the huge ledge is outrageous. We descended a ramp that led to near the base of the Saber, hoping to link em, but got denied by rain.

Another plus of this route: the base is reached after a very short hike, compared to most other things.It's like a steeper version of Hallett's.

Go get some! Oct 10, 2005
doug haller
Boulder, CO
doug haller   Boulder, CO
This was an excellent and engaging route. After the first pitch, every other pitch requires thoughtful attention at some point. Watch the rope drag when climbing up and right from the top of P3 and onto P4. In fact, due to rope drag we set up a belay in the middle of P4 before the traverse. On the long traverse, P4-5, move straight right along horizontals with reasonable pro. After about 25-30 feet, pass a right-facing, curving corner, climb another 5-7 feet right. Look for a place to climb straight up to easier ground. (Difficult route finding because there appears to be several options.) Another long pitch and a half should get you through block, easy climbing to a large ledge system with a tree to the north. Getting off is tricky. Walk along the ledge and look for a descent gully on the right. The gully we selected worked well but was hard to find, I think it was the "most right" of three obvious gullies. It is recognizable by having a very tight, saddle literally like a riding saddle, separating the North face from the SE face. Rack: full rack of nuts and cams. Lots of horizontal cracks on P2 with no placements for nuts the way I climbed. Nov 8, 2007
Jordon Griffler
Jordon Griffler   boulder
I highly don't recommend going straight up the headwall on the second to last pitch. (labeled 5.9r/x variation in the Gillett guide). It's composed of long runouts, weird route finding, and crumbling rock. One of the scarier pitches I've ever led. Jun 20, 2009
Joe Forrester
Palo Alto
Joe Forrester   Palo Alto
Was up there 6/28/14. Great line. Just a heads up. There is an extra large, pizza box-size flake waiting to go just before the traverse right on the 5th pitch. It is very large and very loose and is an obvious hand-hold one wants to yard on. Could easily result in a cut rope. There was a group down below us, so we didn't trundle it. Jun 28, 2014
Rod Shaftmoore
Boulder, CO
Rod Shaftmoore   Boulder, CO
Did this route yesterday (7/18/2014), and removed the loose block mentioned above. I couldn't trundle it because my partner was below. The flake is now resting in the crack, just before you traverse right on the fifth pitch (not ideal, but much better than it was).

This is an amazing route. Run out, yes, but the route sprouts holds very generously. The route finding was also not quite as bad as I expected. We had a copy of the MP route description and the guidebook description. Between the two of them, it was fairly obvious where to go.

The descent gully sucks. That was far sketchier than any of the runout climbing on the route in my opinion. More loose rock than other gullies I've been in and a fair amount of down climbing with the potential for serious falls.

All-in-all, a great route that should see more traffic than it does. Jul 19, 2014
Michael Goodhue
Michael Goodhue   Colorado
Awesome adventure route! Parts are heads up with serious consequences, but for the 5.10 (5.8 X) Eldo climber it's all there.

We did the walk-off and it wasn't that bad. It may have been Descent 2 (or 3) from the Rossiter guide. What we did:

As you top out the route there is a ledge running along the top of the cliff to the north. We walked along this until it ended, then scrambled west up to the top of the buttress. We walked over the buttress then turned north again and went up what would be a continuation of the gully on the climber's left side of the Dalke/Sublime buttress. This led to a notch. At the notch we went down and left and found a gully. Picking our way down the gully was easy, with only about 8-10 feet of down climbing. Lots of loose talus. We then glissaded for glory and contoured around to our packs. We went from topping out the route to being back at our packs in an hour twenty minutes (including photos, putting on shoes, and messing with gear before starting the hike). I would do this descent again. Jun 19, 2017