Type: Sport
FA: Kurt Smith, Mike Pont
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Shared By: Orphaned User on Sep 3, 2001
Admins: Alvaro Arnal, Leo Paik, John McNamee, Frances Fierst, Monty, Monomaniac, Tyler KC

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This route is about as Euro as it gets, replete with incut huecos, interesting tufas, crimps, and of course pockets. If not for the hands-off ledge which separated the lower and upper bits, it would get three stars.

Vision Thing is one route left of Never Believe and about 10-12 feet right of an obvious huge hueco in the rock. Power endurance is the name of the game for the first half and a dyno or two will get you over the final roof and up to the anchors.

People have been bickering over the grade for years now -- Is it 13a? Is it 13b? It would be light-duty 8a in Europe, which puts it at about 13a/b.

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14 quickdraws.

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