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Dynamic Duel

5.13-, Sport,  Avg: 1.7 from 16 votes
FA: FFA: Peter Beal
Colorado > Boulder > Boulder Canyon > Easter Rock
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Description

Dynamic Duel is a great line unfortunately marred by unnecessary gluing and chipping. Follow the crack system right of White Men Can't Jump (I can't either, I haven't done that route yet) to a jug/rail, then do a few hard moves to the lip and a final mantel. Most folks jump from a drilled 2 finger pocket to the lip but enough crimpy edges and sidepulls exist to allow a truly free ascent at 5.13c or d. I'm working on it. Off-route holds include: 1. The big glued and bolted-on flake. 2. The reattached/ glued- on flake next to it. 3. The first drilled out finger jam. 4. The drilled 2 finger pocket. Those are the rules, now get to work!

Protection

7 bolts.

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A sequence shot of Dynamic Duel.
[Hide Photo] A sequence shot of Dynamic Duel.
Dynamic Duel Goes left of the low orange streak and up the small seam.<br>
[Hide Photo] Dynamic Duel Goes left of the low orange streak and up the small seam.

Comments [Hide ALL Comments]

Peter Beal
Boulder Colorado
  5.13a
[Hide Comment] Just in case any other climbers get the idea that I modified this route, let me set the record straight. I don't chip routes. Anyone is welcome to check out the dozen or so 5.13 FAs or FFAs I've done in Boulder Canyon and Clear Creek. One route has a reattached hold and a reinforced one. That route also has large drilled holds that I filled in. I consider Dynamic Duel to still be an aid climb and I encourage other climbers to rise to the challenge of climbing without chipped holds whatever the difficulty. Jul 24, 2001
Peter Beal
Boulder Colorado
  5.13a
[Hide Comment] Let me again assert my support for climbingboulder.com anti-chipping campaign by affirming that this route was clearly modified for "free climbing" purposes. I disagree with the format of the campaign but respect its intent. Nov 7, 2001
[Hide Comment] Yeah, only if you redpoint up to the lip and limply brush it with your hand as you plummet back to earth...but I heard if you mantel the lip you are no longer classified as ultralyte Aug 26, 2004
[Hide Comment] Well, I stuck the lip hold with my left hand, then bumped my right to the crimp before falling, would you agree that it was a solid 12c redpoint, I would give it 12c/d if I matched both hands on the jug before falling. Aug 26, 2004
[Hide Comment] AC #2 would you by chance be the infamous author of the Boulder Canyon Sport and ADVENTURE climbing guidebook, Mark Rolofson ???? Because we have already read all your spray about redpointing up to the ___ bolt on all of your over-graded climbs. If you climb to the anchors you redpointed it, but if not, you did not do it....

with love,

Crusty, the Trad Monkey Aug 26, 2004
[Hide Comment] Does this route involve wild slaps? Nov 11, 2004
[Hide Comment] Why is this route here, I thought there was a policy against this! Sep 7, 2008
Ben Crawford
  5.13a
[Hide Comment] Actually kind of fun if you can think past all of the modified holds! Sep 20, 2016
Mark Rolofson
  5.13b
[Hide Comment] I equipped & prepared this route in 1995 & fell hitting the lip of the overhang numerous times on redpoint. In 1996, working this crux section led to a finger tendon injury. This was the first route that I ever manufactured a hold on. I didn't drill a pocket in blank, smooth rock but instead created two holds in the thin, vertical seam. The first hold is a finger jam that I used my Hilti & an angle piton with a hammer to widen the seam. The upper hold (a two finger pocket) involved deepening an existing shallow slot.

As for the glued & bolted on hold, there is a long story behind it. There are two holds next to each other. One is a big edge, I pulled off & glued back on. I should have simply settled for this hold, but the other hold (an incut flake) that I pulled off was better. I had hoped that gluing this hold back on would allow the moves above to go without modifying the seam. Unfortunately, this hold fell off the wall before the PC-7 cured. This left an ugly glue scar. So I decided to glue & bolt an imported hold on. In retrospect, I should have left this hold off. The route would go without it & be harder.

In any case, I make no apologies & quite enjoyed the climb. It's the hardest climb at Easter to this day. In 1995, I put a lot of work into establishing routes, creating a trail to the base & doing ledge work. What I saw then, was that Boulder had numerous honed climbers who were Bottom Feeders. They were unwilling to do the work needed to establish even one route not to mention a crag. Numerous 5.13 climbers visited the crag that year (& since). No one was or is stopping them from establishing routes.

In order to establish a belay zone for Dynamic Duel, I removed bat shit from the base that was 3 feet deep. I wore a respirator to do this. I also cleaned hard, sticky bat shit from a jug by the 2nd bolt, using bathroom cleaner & a wire brush. I did a lot of work here. I didn't feel the route would go without improving the seam, & it still hasn't gone without the two manufactured holds. I did not feel in anyway obliged to simply create an impossible project for everyone to try.

I have equipped numerous lines that were too hard for me & left those routes for better climbers. The open unclimbed project (5.17??) that leaves the Dynamic Duel at the 6th bolt & traverses right to the thin seam, is a good example. I drilled one pocket on this project (in a bullet scar) to link to the vertical seam. I had hoped the seam would be climbable. I could have created a 5.14 by modifying this seam with numerous finger locks & pockets. I chose not to. I much prefer 100% lines. In rare cases, improving or creating one or two holds to link natural holds, seemed justified. It's a long debate, often with no right or wrong answer. Manufacturing the majority of holds on a route is a different thing altogether. This is something that I never engaged in.

Peter wants to have his cake & eat it too. In other words: take credit for the F.F.A of a route that had almost been sent then turn around & criticize my tactics at the same time. Better energy would have been spent leading by example (establishing new super hard new lines at the crag) rather than being a zealot & critic with a holier than thou attitude. Aug 10, 2019
Mark Rolofson
  5.13b
[Hide Comment] I should mention that the route doesn't end on the lip hold just above the anchor. It pulls the lip & stands up on it at a higher anchor without lowering rings or chains. Lowering from above the lip & then cleaning the route would cause rope damage. This route is extremely overhanging. It is relatively easy lower or aid 4-5 feet back to the anchor below the lip & then clean draws off the upper anchor. Aug 10, 2019
Peter Beal
Boulder Colorado
  5.13a
[Hide Comment] No worries, Mark. As you know, I put up plenty of harder routes in the area besides freeing others such as yours. I simply prefer climbs without shenanigans, many of which you’ve done FAs of. I personally don’t care if my name is removed from FFAs of chipped routes. I asked if I could try it and, with permission, did it 2nd try. No big deal. That was a long time ago now. Aug 10, 2019
Mark Rolofson
  5.13b
[Hide Comment] Peter, I had taken the red tag off & given you permission to get on the route. I've always been okay with the fact that you did the FFA. It's ancient history & listed in several guidebooks including the ones that I wrote. So I'm not trying to rewrite history but rather document the facts around this route in more detail & defend the route. When you posted this in 2000, I wasn't paying any attention to ClimbingBoulder. Several years ago, I did see this route post but decided not to respond then, because I had better things to do with my time. I felt over time I should address your route description & the criticism of the route, because it makes the manufactured holds seem much more blatant than they are. The two pockets aren't blatantly drilled. I improved an existing feature just enough to make it useable. I've walked under this route numerous times with people who have not climbed the route. Nothing looks manufactured, & I've had to point out the bolted-on-hold before they could recognize it. The bolt is well-camouflaged with Liquid Nails.

I think your route description goes beyond representing the facts & is rather judgmental. It's a bit over the top. I'm not saying that I am above criticism for my actions, & I understand your issue with chipping & drilling of holds. Here we are 23 years after you did the FFA & 24 years after I did a one hang ascent of the route, & it still hasn't gone without the drilled pockets in the seam or the glued on holds. I doubt many people are that offended by the holds either. You could write the same critique into many other route descriptions with far more blatantly manufactured holds. In order words, I think your route description does this worthy route a huge disservice. Criticism like yours are best left for the comment section, not as the main focus of the route description. Aug 10, 2019
Dave L
5.13b
[Hide Comment] Fun route. More people should climb it.

I climbed (or should I say aided lol) it using the bolted on hold and the drilled pockets. The moves to get to the midway rest are interesting. The moves from the rest to the top are quite enjoyable using the pockets and making a big move to the lip!

For difficulty, I compare it to the other routes at the crag. Nevermore, The Flying Beast, and Dynamic Duel are all full letter grades apart, IMO. I would suggest 12d, 13a, 13b or 12c, 12d, 13a if you wanted them to be stiff.

I agree with Mark that the bolted hold is barely noticeable from the ground. Thanks Mark for bolting the route, and thank you to Peter and Mark for providing the rest of us with a bit of entertainment in a comment thread that spans 18 years. I'll mark down 2036 on my calendar to check in with how the dispute is going! Haha! Oct 21, 2020