Type: Trad, Mixed, Ice, 3 pitches, Grade IV
FA: P1 T Dickey, P2 unknown
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Shared By: Evan Stevens on Dec 31, 2004
Admins: Edward Medina, Leo Paik, John McNamee, Frances Fierst, Monty, Monomaniac

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One of the San Juan multi-pitch classics-just as good if not better than Ames Ice Hose. Approach as for the Skylight area climbs, and keep skiing up the road past the climbing. You will see the big drip on the left. Head up the slope to the base of the climb, being wary of the avalanche danger. Should take about 1.5 hours.

1st pitch is straightfoward ice, anywhere from WI4 to 5 depending on the conditions. You can belay on the left side of the ledge from a small tree.

For pitch 2, move the belay about 30 feet to the right, with some questionable pro. I used a KB and a nut, but it is a huge ledge. The 2nd pitch is the business, linking up ice hummucks in a leftward rising traverse. Bad rock, thin smears and drips, really wild (WI6 M6?), lots of rock gear on this pitch. After the hummocks traverse left to a corner/groove and go straight up for another 30 ft. Some fixed gear and more rock pro for you to throw in. Belay at the ledge, with some funky gear on the left side of the ledge.

The third pitch is an amazing all ice picth. Traverse back right on to the ice and climb the steep stuff (WI 5/5+?) to the top, all screws. At the top, traverse right to a tree belay/rappel.

For the easiest descent, DON'T rap off the first tree, walk right a little more, so you can rap straight down to the next tree. Watch your rope ends, two 60m raps will put you back at your packs. Hope the beta helps, just enough to get you out there.


12 screws (10, 13 and 16 cm) 1 set of cams from 0.5" to 3", 1 or 2 LA/KBs, 12 runners (include a few screamers).


Alan Searcy
Pine, Colorado
  WI5+ M6 R
Alan Searcy   Pine, Colorado
  WI5+ M6 R
Giant ass-whuppin that left me retard happy. Mar 12, 2008
Rob Griz
  WI5 M6+
Rob Griz   Frisco
  WI5 M6+
No bolts, all balls. One of the finer pure trad mixed lines. A bit lean but stellar at WI5 M6+R. Apr 3, 2008
phil wortmann
Colorado Springs, Co.
phil wortmann   Colorado Springs, Co.
Lost a camera at the base of talisman last Saturday. I'm sure it's under 10ft of snow by now, but if by chance you find a red camera, hit me up. Thanks Nov 18, 2013
Princess Mia
Princess Mia   Vail
Such a fun and exciting climb.

Two 60m ropes work perfectly for the raps. Just head right at the top for maybe 50ft to the second rap tree. Rap to huge tree on ledge. Another rap to ground. Easy and straightforward. Jan 28, 2014