Type: Trad, Mixed, Ice, 100 ft
FA: Sven Krebs, 2000 or 2001
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Shared By: Leo Paik on Feb 4, 2003
Admins: Edward Medina, Leo Paik, John McNamee, Frances Fierst, Monty, Monomaniac

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This is quite a nice little creation in the lower Ice Park. It is a fun TR or a decent lead if the ice is solid on the hanging pillar. It is vertical, technical, sustained, and quality. Find this gem downstream from the lower bridge of the Ouray Ice Park. It is easily viewed from the metal viewing platform below the bridge on the East side of the canyon. To TR, walk down past the trees above Popsicle to the next bulge of ice, perhaps 80 feet beyond Popsicle and its big tree. It is upstream from the 5 mph sign. To lead this, hike down the path downhill from the viewing platform and find this hanging ice above a rock face halfway up the wall. Or rap in.

Do not mistake this for the wavy, overhanging crack (no bolts) of Super Dave, tricky M7+, just upstream on the next rock face.

From the bottom of the canyon, climb an easier bit of ice to a great ledge at the base of a short rock face with a vertical, cracked system (and 4 bolts), then pull on small edges, a few decent pick slots, and then reach R to the hanging ice. This is the middle line of bolts on this cliff. A bolt lies tucked in just behind a bit of ice on the R. Pull on to the ice creating a short overlap/overhang. Then move up vertical ice for perhaps 20 feet to the top. Save a bit of gas for the top bit of ice. Much easier top with the hooks created by traffic. Pinkpointing probably shaves a bit of difficulty. 90 feet. Fun, fun, fun. A treat.

Oh yeah, if you are going to lead this one and are setting up from below, beware that there is a pool of water with thin ice. Peter & Lisa watched someone go in to his waist just before he hopped on to this route.


6-7 QDs, a handful of screws/slings.

Toprope Protection

2 bolts in a chunk of rock.


Jason Nelson
Jason Nelson   SLC, UT
This route has more like 6-7 bolts (when they're not being covered by ice). A great introduction to mixed climbing as the pick placements are quite positive. This route is great even without any ice (starting from the ledge). I've climbed this as a pure rock route as well (without crampons and tools) and it's about 5.11+. The route to the climbers right on the same wall is Seamstress (M9ish). Nov 17, 2004
FA by Sven Krebs, 2000 or 2001. Jan 22, 2009
It seems there is some confusion on this website as to which mixed route is which. There are 3 closely spaced bolt lines on this buttress. Somebody with more experience in the Park please comment to clean this up- thanks.

1. Tic Tac: It is my understanding that Tic Tac is the middle line. It starts with a very easy ice ramp to a stance. Then, begin with a couple bolts with perfect pick placements that my grandma could hang, then reach a small overlap which is flanked on the right by some thinnish ice. With ice maybe M6, without ice at top M7ish.

2. Seamstress: To the right of Tic Tac a few meters. Never done it. The pictures posted under Seamstress are actually Tic Tac?

3. Other route left of Tic Tac: Never done it. What is it? A nice iced up corner with some bolts a few meters left of Tic Tac. Jan 24, 2009
SAL   broomdigiddy
Tictac is the center line here. The line on the left was added about 3 or 4 years ago. It is only around M6 or so, but I found it a bit more technical with tool placments then Tic Tac. There is a Steinpull and some other weird stuff in the middle of the climb.

Seamstress is on the right. The photo on this page above shows climbers on Tic Tac (L) and Seamstress (R). Seamstress is a great climb. If you are not a bad ass, it takes somme beta work as you do a lot of hooking on small niches that are hard to see from below them. Great techincal tooling and foot work. Feb 5, 2009
Jason Nelson
Jason Nelson   SLC, UT
The route to the left of Tic Tac was put up by Mark Miller last year (early 2008) and is called Circling Vultures. It's in the same grade range as Tic Tac.
The name is derived from people getting ready to climb the route while Mark was putting the last of the bolts in. Feb 12, 2009
The difficulty of this route varies a fair bit depending on how much ice is present. In normal conditions, I think Vince Anderson's guide is pretty accurate for the relative grades of the three climbs on this wall. That is to say, Tic Tac (M6), Circling Vultures (M7), and Seamstress (M8). Tic Tac, with or without ice, is just a pegboard of good and very obvious hooks. The only difficulty is the pump. Circling Vultures actually has some fairly delicate and 'balancy' move, although there is often a rest at 3/4 height on an ice ledge. It's clearly more difficult than Tic Tac. Seamstress (the only one of these routes I haven't led, and I've only TR'ed it once) seemed substantially more difficult than Circling Vultures. It's pumpy, in part because it is fairly difficult to discern where to go on an onsight. I mean, you just follow the bolts, but where to hook is inobvious on the onsight, at least for me. All three routes, however, are great fun and well worth doing. Tic Tac is the least interesting because of the aforementioned pegboard effect. Mar 26, 2010
Jay 1975
Bonedale, CO
Jay 1975   Bonedale, CO
Ya pretty easy to onsight, circling is more of a challenge for sure. Jan 15, 2017