Type: Sport, 70 ft
FA: Sarah Taylor
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Shared By: Peter Gram on Sep 10, 2004
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This climb starts just a few feet right of Birth Simulator, on the wall opposing the Chambered Nautilus. Jug hauling past new bolts gets you to the top.


bolts (6 or 7?) + 2 bolt anchor.


Andrew Gram
Salt Lake City, UT
Andrew Gram   Salt Lake City, UT  
There is no way any of this feels like 5.7 - difficulty is nowhere near as hard as any of the 5.6 sport routes at Salt Lake Slips or Storm Mountain Island. 5.4 or maybe 5.5 feels about right.

Definitely agree that you could deck clipping the second bolt and that it probably should be a bit lower with an additional bolt above it. However, I can't imagine how you could fall while clipping it. Maybe not a great first lead, but a fine 4th or 5th lead.

I'll give it two stars because I can't think of a better sport route this easy in BCC. Sep 16, 2004
Lee Gitlin
Lee Gitlin  
The route is also a bit dirty toward the top, with a bush in the bolt line, which is why we gave it only one star. Sep 16, 2004
Nathan Fisher
St George
Nathan Fisher   St George  
Not a 5.5, not a 5.7. How about 5.6. Anyway, it seemed to me to be a very squeezed route, that close to the crack (Birth Simulator). Very positive edges almost the entire way. It felt like 5.5 most of the way with a bit of 5.6 near the 3rd bolt. A great route for young ones and other beginners. Oct 7, 2004
I am the first to claim "squeeze job" normally, but since the birth simulator is a total crap pile that doesn't see any action anyway, this is probably not that bad. However...that being said, this is at most a 5.5/5.6. WAY easier than six apeal, or some other bolted 5.6's in the canyon. 5.5 at best, 5.7?? are you serious? were you intentionally skipping the jugs? What is sad is that someone spent some money equipping this silly thing, and coral bells (a classic and stiff for the grade!) is in serious need of a retro fit. Go figure. Jul 9, 2005
After sketching out a bit after the third bolt on Coral Bells, I jumped on this one as a little confidence builder, and found it to be a bit lacking in that due to the ease of the route......I understand 4th class and I understand 5.6....everything in between is kinda a blur, and that fell into the easier part of this blur for me....much easier than Six Appeal...easier than Italian, easier than Roll the Bones.....and comparing it to other nearby 5.6 offereings, there is no question.....Schoolroom?? Steort's?? Jig's up?? I headed up to Touch of Teflon to get my mojo back. Sep 13, 2005
Lee Gitlin
Lee Gitlin  
Okay, fair enough. Reclimbed this route, and several other 5.6-5.7's and I must revise my rating. 5.5 seems more correct. The route is WAY easier than Becky's (5.7) and easier than the crux moves on Steort's. I maintain that missing the second clip could result in deckfall, regardless of how easy the route may be. Be aware, fledling leaders, and be careful.

Prior ratings revised accordingly. Beta not edited. Aug 31, 2006
Michael MacFadden  
Feels like a 5.5 for sure. If you stay to the right of the bolts its like walking up stairs. This would be a good first lead for a new leader. Aug 25, 2007
glen kaplan
Salt Lake City, UT
glen kaplan   Salt Lake City, UT
I've actually climbed Birth Simulator...and it is a bit harder not to mention dirty as hell from never getting done and a gear climb in an area that is mainly 'sport'...I think this route is 5.5 at most...

Since no one is suggesting names, and I hate people confusing it with Birth Simulator (which is an entirely different route)...why not call it Birth Stimulator or Earth Simulator or some such?

In the end...I guess "that easy climb to the right of Birth Simulator" is good enough to communicate what and where you mean :)

Nobody knows who put this one up, eh? It's really, really popular! Sep 12, 2007
5.5 at best. Oct 1, 2007
Salt Lake City, UT
tytonic   Salt Lake City, UT
I've done this route a couple of times over the summer, and I'd have to say it's a little harder than the staircase at the mall. Since the easiest thing I've climbed is a 5.6, I can't give an accurate rating, but this is way easier than any local 5.6 sport route I've done. It's a good route if you are taking someone out for a first time climbing experience. I'm sure the easy climbing and easy access are the major factors contributing to its popularity. Dec 3, 2007
The name of this route is Sweet and Low. FA fall 2004 by Sarah Taylor (age 17). May 7, 2008
cdec   SLC, UT
Certainly easy and well protected. A wonderful beginner lead on quailty rock. My 5 yr. old daughter Emma brownsited it. She said "the most fun thing I've ever done." May 17, 2008
Mike Abel
Mike Abel  
I'm sort of a new leader--this was only my 7-8th lead. I actually enjoyed it quite a bit, and led it onsight (if that's worth anything on a 5.5) but I'm thinking 5.6 might be the grade. Definitely not 5.7 or 5.8. And the 2nd clip is extremely deckable, so watch that. I noticed that, but the holds are really good so I wasn't too worried... but it was nice to make that 2nd clip. Jul 3, 2009
Derek Newman
Holladay, UT
Derek Newman   Holladay, UT
I totally know the girl that set this route- HUH!!! Aug 17, 2009
Alex Quitiquit
Salt Lake City
Alex Quitiquit   Salt Lake City
Easily 5.10- minus guys. Aug 31, 2012
Joseph Lascurain
Joseph Lascurain   Cincinnati
The bottom chain links are getting a bit sharp. Careful/ use your own gear and rap. Apr 22, 2013
Gabriel Tallent
Salt Lake City, UT
Gabriel Tallent   Salt Lake City, UT
A 5.5 for the 5.7 leader. I think that for the brand-new leader, the bolting would be a touch unnerving. I was a little confused about the actual line, the boltline seemed to follow smaller edges. The difficulty eases considerably if you go onto the chalked up jugs out right, but the line on the smaller stuff is more rewarding, which makes the difficulty hard to gauge. Sep 2, 2013
Sean Henry Scott IV
salt lake city, ut
Sean Henry Scott IV   salt lake city, ut
What is the point in arguing over the grade especially when it's 5.7 or below, if you can lead climb any route at any of the local gyms (or any gym in the country??) than you can do this. Virtually every clip is at or near a no hands rest (you could probably clip most draws with two hands). There is even a huge ledge at the top to clean from. I don't know what more you could ask for a beginner/first lead, other than maybe something more difficult (unless you literally have no idea how to mechanically clip the rope into the draw) because this definitely inspires false confidence. Just be warned that leading traditionally carries with it some sort of psychological aspect, not every bolt will be perfectly placed with a rest and not every bolt will be 10ft from the last - especially on slabs. If you are a brand new leader I would run several laps on this (or practice at a gym) before going onto routes that technically might be just as easy like six appeal...or just accept that you will fall (actually getting used to falling safely is probably the best way and will allow you to get onto the real fun stuff much quicker). That being said, it's still a good route and while easy, it doesn't feel like a chore like most 5.7-'s do, so if you're taking a group, this is perfect. Mar 24, 2014
Garrett C
Garrett C   SL, UT
Easy there guys. This climb is easily below 5.7, no sense in arguing about that. Great for first time leader, and pretty hard to mess this one up. Simple, and somewhat lengthy. Everyones gotta learn to lead outside sometime. Just enjoy it. Apr 18, 2014
Tara Hansen  
perfect beginner lead! May 28, 2014
Good, easy climb. I decided to take a date with me on this climb. She had never climbed before and she only had a pair of tennis shoes. I led the climb and the chains and bolts are still in good condition. I belayed her by means of Top Rope and she was able to make it all the way to the top! It was a ton of fun for the both of us! I highly recommend this for beginners. Jul 19, 2014
Frank Anthony Nederhand
Salt Lke City, Utah
Frank Anthony Nederhand   Salt Lke City, Utah
If you stay on route it is a 5.7. But you can make it 5.5 by going right to easier moves. It is more fun staying on route! Oct 10, 2016
The Real Ryan Murphy
Salt Lake City, UT
The Real Ryan Murphy   Salt Lake City, UT
Fun warm up route. Very easy, and would be a great first lead climb for someone. Nov 4, 2016
Most of the bolt hangers have been removed on this route. Not sure if some do-gooder thought it was too much of a squeeze or what, but they did a very poor job of "chopping" the route.

Please try harder next time, or don't chop the beginner sport routes. Oct 29, 2018
That is indeed SAD!? I don't think I ever climbed the route, but It has been there for 14 years? Who found it so offensive? Oct 29, 2018
We checked out this route on 11/14/18 and the bolts are still in place. It looks like some of the bolts from the climb to the right of Sweet and Low have been removed but Sweet and Low is intact. Nov 15, 2018