PRINT: Rock Climb No Self Confidence, Joshua Tree National Park

No Self Confidence

5.10c, Trad, 110 ft (33 m),

Avg: 3.6 from 19 votes
FA: Dennis Yates and Roger Linfield, Dec. 1983
California > Joshua Tree NP > Wonderland of R… > Wonderland North > Grey Giant Area > Flying Fortress

Access Issue: Climbing Regulations/Seasonal Raptor Closures Details

The Joshua Tree National Park Superintendent's Compendium states that:
1. Vegetation is not allowed to be used as an anchor.
2. Only neutral or rock colored bolt hangers are allowed.

For a complete list of climbing rules and closures visit:
nps.gov/jotr/planyourvisit/…

Description

This is the right of 2 similar flares in the middle of the south face. Both have sustained hand cracks.

Protection

standard rack, esp hands

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Nick G starting No Self Confidence

Incredible looking formation, in an incredible location.

Climb through this bush to get started!

No Self Confidence

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Vernon Stiefel

FA: Yates and Linfield, Dec. 1983. When I climbed this route in the fall of '02 there was an overcammed 3.5 camalot near the top. Great crack climb (4 out of 5 stars). I think 10c is fair. Apr 24, 2003

Roger Linfield

This was a very memorable climb for Dennis. After spending most of the day at the Gray Giant, we tried to find a shortcut back to the main trail. By mistake, we stumbled into the broad valley between the Fortress and Flying Fortress, and then looked around in amazement. It was Dennis' turn to lead, and despite the late hour he picked this climb. It was his first ever 5.10 crack lead, but he went up it smoothly. After I followed, we quickly scrambled down, and then hiked out in the dark. His name for the climb was "Back on My Feet Again," celebrating his recovery from major back surgery. Mar 30, 2006

Randy
Lassitude 33

Roger, It would be nice to know these things before the guide is finished. I have no problem changing names (or putting akas). Thanks for posting the story. Mar 31, 2006

Adam D
Los Osos, CA

I was glad to have a #4 for the short wide spot but it's not essential. Great steep jamming on this climb...a great line. Mar 31, 2009

fubar
Babylon

I took the 3.5 in 2007 -- it still looks good! Jun 18, 2010

Richard Shore

Enduro hands! Maybe not the best choice for a morning "warm-up" climb. Nov 26, 2012

MikeP ROWCC

5.10a/b

I've been climbing in Jtree for over a decade and this is now my new favorite route in the park. If this was near a road the lines would be 15 parties deep every weekend. Best climb in the park that I have done! Mar 11, 2013

Tradiban

Bottom third seemed the hardest, I bumped a #4 three times in a wide section about half way.

Bolted rap anchor above No Self Respect. Mar 17, 2018

Andre Ribeiro
Idyllwild, CA

Fantastic climb. Well worth the hike (which is also super fun). Also made it to my list of best climbs in Joshua Tree. Mar 13, 2023