I thought that of all of the routes that I have done in the Fishers (NE ridge, Phantom, Finger) this was certainly the most exciting. It does not have the same exposure as Phantom, nor the history of the finger, nor the height of Kingfisher. However, west side story is a very fun climb that deserves to be more popular. At no point does the aid become too hard for a competent C3 leader nor is the free climbing at all too death defying. One note of caution; someone someone should go up and start replacing the belay bolts, some are very old and dubious. Also, just a side note before I get to the topo, I think that this will be the next line in the fishers to go free. Very possible if the belays were improved. Now onto the business. Also, descending the route was not enjoyable. There needs to be another way to go about that. Also, another note: I will grade each pitch with a fun, zesty, uber zesty rating as opposed to the YDS. It is the fishers after all, each pitch can change a lot. I will note the harder aid pitches and free pitches though. Location: Begins on the left side of the north face of cottontail below the saddle between cottontail and echo.
P1- Fun- Begin on some slabs and work up obvious chimney system to spacious ledge.
P2- Fun- Use a few old studs to get into a squeeze chimney. Don't get stuck!
P3-Fun- Descent Aiding, a few mud moves. Follow the left side crack and then move right to a belay.
P4-Zesty/uber zesty- Good aiding and some exciting free moves. Maybe made more exciting because I was rope soloing, I don't know. Just dig the mantle. this pitch will take you to the giant bivy ledge on the saddle.
P5-Zesty-Fun aiding, but short pitch straight up arete on the west end of the saddle.
P6- Fun- Good aiding, but no particularly zesty moves, the chimney at the top is cool though.
P7- Uber Zesty- The aid pitch combined with a sweet traverse to a blind placement. The exposure is becoming more awesome
P8 Zesty/uber zesty- a free pitch with some enticing off-width. Combine this with the chimney marked Pitch 9 in the Bjornstad guide for one long pitch.
P9 Fun- Go around to the south side of the tower and climb a wide crack to a 1/4 incher to the summit.
Just a few words of caution. If you are going to rap the route, leave a rope fixed between 5 and 6 and 6 and 7 to help you get back down. A sweet route over all.
You have been warned. Sep 6, 2005
Bring binocs and scope the Road Kill rap route before you set off. Rap Road Kill straight down the face to the ground!
If you do this bring a bunch or webbing, leaver biners/rap rings, some bolts and a hammer. Who knows what the Hell is up there as far as hardware is concerned?
Have fun! Sep 14, 2005
Palo Alto
Durango, CO
-We did get off route on the last pitch and climbed a crack that was to the left of the route, don't do this; it was not fun.
-We also combined pitches 8 and 9 (with a 60 m rope) which was nice.
-We rappeled the route with one 60 meter fixed rope on pitch 6 and half of pitch 7. It was fine and would have been even easier if we did not have a small haul bag with us.
-We left the car with light, got back with light, and did not rush. It is deffinetly not a grade 6 like one of the guide books and this page suggest. Grade IV, or Grade V if your slow.
-An extra bolt on the anchors is not a bad idea. The anchor on top has only a drilled pin and a bolt(with a nut as a hanger) there was a inch long 1/4" that we pulled out with our fingers. You would be fine with out a bolt kit but it might be a good idea to bring one.
Ben Jun 18, 2006
Lander, WY
A number of lead bolts were replaced, but the route is still very spicey in this category. The traverse pitch still has 3 or 4 time capsules for all the new halfies. Many lead bolts were not replaced on other pitches cus they are not necessary with new gear. Its still C3 with that hard bit coming up high and in a traversing pitch, so if you fell and got hurt your partner would have a VERY difficult time getting to you. Considering the Moab area does not have a heli-rescue team, you might be toast and he might just have to give you the Simpson/Yates sendoff!
All the anchors on the main tower have at least 2 half-inch bolts (ASCA stuff) and are linked with camo-chain. No need to add webbing for quite a few years. The second anchor from the top, on the summit ridge, has been moved east to a spot directly above the next rap... you'll see it.
The rap that spans the traverse pitch should have, with hindsight, been moved. We had a hell of a time pulling the ropes and the traversy- rap is spooky. I would recommend that future parties go with two seventies, one for climbing and one for pulling. With a seventy (X2) you can rap from the top of the traverse pitch to the arete anchor. THis gives you a better pull angle on the rope.
We replaced one of the anchors on the lower section, below the saddle, with new chains. You can rap to this anchor from the saddle and then rap to the ground (Watch the ends) with rope stretch from it. That last one is all of the 60 meter ropes but would be casual on 70's
I posted some pics of our replacement stuff. We did not bring down all the webbing we could... we ran out of day light. In particular, there is an old fixed line running above the saddle that needs to be chopped. Its been there for years and muggles have legitimately complained.
All in All, I would have to say that this route now sports the best rap anchors in the Fishers... which is more than it deserves. I felt it was a great summit, with the highest pitches being the best. However, the majority of the route was pretty bland Fisher climbing.
A final note... in Thailand we have to worry about big, overhanging traversing raps a lot. The best way we found to do it is to have the first person go down and clip the gear on the way, sucking him in, and then clipping the ends real lose at the lower anchor. The second then goes down removing it and taking a big swing each time. For real big raps you need ascenders to pull yourself in and a prusik helps to get your hands free. The system works well in Thailand, but there are things to worry about. Each time you swing the rope could be rubbing on something... you could slice it or you could dislodge something that hits you really , really hard.
Actually, the safest thing is to just not climb in the Fishers. Apr 30, 2007
Palo Alto
I'm not surprised to hear of your struggles with the traversing rappels. I thought most folks rapped Roadkill. Roadkill itself does not look very good (lots of 1/4-inch rivets following seams, this being done in the pre-Birdbeak days), but it is a very direct rappel line.
Thanks again for putting in the time and effort. Looks like a nice haul of old webbing. May 2, 2007
Our recommended rack was:
8x rivet hangers
1x stoppers - mostly med-lrg
1x #5 HB offset
1x Tcu's - nothing too small
1x .25, 3.5, 4, 4.5, 5 Camalot
3x .5 - 3 Camalot
Two tie offs
shoulder length slings
15 draws
50 biners
Didn't have or need any tricams.
Suggest bringing a bolt kit to replace any of the old bolts that might pull - there are a bunch that are pretty manky. Oct 15, 2007
Lander, WY
Lander, WY
Durango, CO
ben Oct 17, 2007
Lander, WY
Broomfield, CO
Also, mega props to Sam and the ASCA for replacing most of the anchors on the route. Thanks a ton, it really helped give us the balls to try this thing in the first place. May 6, 2009
Grand Junction, Co
Grand Junction, Co
It is only fair to admit that routes done from back in the day will be updated.
When climbing the sundevil chimney, the only thing I saw updated was the anchors from Stevie's attempt on freeing it. The same with the other towers in the fishers that he did.
I feel that changing a route for the over all safety is justified. But, changing a route for two people to feel safe in their new approach to the route is perhaps not.
This is not to say that when I am out there that I don't replace bad protection. I thought that the equipment on the WSS was adequate for the Grade.
If the protection warranted a sweeping update why didn't Sam do it?
I do not mean to take away from the accomplishment in no way do I think they are "lame-ass hardmen". I also do my share of anchor replacement. Perhaps I need to step down from the soap box!
Nor do I think that there is anything wrong with aid climbing
I guess that it boils down to the line that becomes more and more blurry between aid and free.
With the rock quality in Arches and in the Fishers it is also difficult to speculate on what is more sustainable for the route.
I guess I just need to get-up with times. Cheers to new school trad!
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-Jesse
Apr 15, 2010
Broomfield, CO
Lander, WY
EDIT
BTW, this is in no way intended to influence any arguments of style or anything. I just want it understood that prior to you guys freeing the route we had replaced a lot of it... its in the record above. I make the point simply because it was a big effort and a lot of people on this site made donations to the fund that paid for it. Apr 6, 2011
Broomfield, CO
Anyway, I did mention in my above post and will say here as well, thank you for updating the anchors and other hardware that you did. You did a great job and I really appreciate it, both on this route and every other route you update. Happy climbing Apr 6, 2011
Grand Junction, Co
Glade Park, CO
Colorado Springs, CO
Also whats up with all those bolts????????? There is 3 at the shoulder besides the already 4 pieces for the anchor. Keep in mind, these 3 are a totally separate anchor. Brand new.... Then there is a 3 piece bolt anchor on the summit that is a totally different anchor from the summit anchor. Is this Andy's anchors he bolted for the highline? What a shame........let's add 6 bolts on one tower for one highline. Bit much....Why couldn't he use the standard anchors? There right by each other.....Might as well add a bolt ladder up the tower. Maybe it's just me. A pet peeve. Oct 24, 2013
Lander, WY
Colorado Springs, CO
Palo Alto
Also, that rappel down pitch 7 to the top of pitch 6, it blows. Didn't someone mention someone was going to epic on it? Well, that chap, was me. We wanted to go down Road Kill but was worried about the condition of the anchors. Descending this route sucks! Oct 25, 2013
Palo Alto
Palo Alto
Glenwood ,Co
Palo Alto
Glenwood ,Co
Palo Alto
Our party must have been complete chicken shits too!
No doubt in my mind that's C3 but I suck at climbing. Mar 27, 2014
Colorado Springs, CO
I thought it was more like C2−. For reference, I think FOF is C1, and Kingfisher about C0+...maybe.....
But seriously, I think grades in the fishers don't mean shit. I've found them either soft or sandbagged. More often then not, sandbagged. That's the way it is. It's constantly changing from year to year. Who cares about what grade the route is. It's a sweet route and a good adventure. Enjoy the mud. You'll get er done this time, Jason! Woohoo Mar 29, 2014
Glenwood ,Co
While leaning right and jiggling around a bit the blue alien shifted and when I looked at it it appeared to have all but umbrellaed on the left side. I wasn't quick enough and it ripped, I landed on the slab below compressing my chest on the right side in a sitting position then bounced and was caught by the y/g offset alien thankfully. I lowered off almost immediately because I knew I was in bad shape. Trying to get comfortable at the belay was not enjoyable so I rapped off. Most painful rap of my entire life, followed by one of the worst nights of sleep then hauling 3 loads of ropes and other crap out as my partners stripped the gear and other ropes off the route the following day. My partner left a #3 bd stopper fixed when he down aided/ cleaned the pitch the following day. The anchor on that pitch is not inspiring and before I set out on the pitch we backed it up by making a 20' loop to sling the protrusion on the ledge.
I highly doubt I will ever come back, the experience has been miserable enough to make me reconsider my dreams of climbing all the major towers. It's pretty lame giving up and feeling inadequate but I guess I'm just not good enough or willing enough to break more bones and work my ass off in the process. May 21, 2014
Durango, CO
We rappelled the route again and fixed a 6mm tag line on pitch 7 which was a bad idea. If you are going to rappel the route fix a line on that pitch large enough that you can jug over/up to the anchor on it. I had to basically aid back to the anchor which was not fun.
Also, the last bolt on the Pitch 7 bolt ladder ripped under my body weight and I took a 20+ footer. Luckily a starbolt caught me. FYI you can free climb past this section in approach shoes(5.8? 5.9?).
I just read the comments above. I didn't see a bolt at the end of the traverse on pitch 7. While on the rappel I did see a bolt a ways up and left of the crux but never saw it on lead. Are people climbing up the short stem chimney above the belay and then traversing right? This seems like the only way to use this bolt. Apr 2, 2016
Durango, CO
This cleared up a lot of confusion for me. I traversed straight right off the anchor around the corner at the beginning of pitch 7. Apr 4, 2016
Gardnerville, NV
Lakewood, CO