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Your shoe size vs. climbing shoe size

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Travis Lubinski · · Silver Cliff, Co/Apache Jun… · Joined Mar 2013 · Points: 65

Just looking to get an idea of what everyone wears for climbing shoe size compared to their other footwear. Please list your hiking boot/tennis shoe size and your climbing shoe size. Maybe also throw in there if the climbing shoes are neutral, moderate or aggressive. 

Thank you

EJN · · Unknown Hometown · Joined May 2012 · Points: 248
John Clark · · Reno, NV · Joined Mar 2016 · Points: 1,398

mountain footwear project is a good place now that size squirrel is pseudo defunct

Gunkiemike · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Jul 2009 · Points: 3,642

IME Scarpa sizes are pretty accurate. LaSpo I take a full size or even more smaller than normal. 5.10 sizes vary all over the place depending on the model. Evolv runs small and your street shoe size may be tight enough. Also know that any folks have been burned by sizing variations on the exact shoe bought a year apart; as I recall the tendency is that the new shoes are way smaller than they used to be (it happened to me with Miura VCS). Bottom line - try before you buy, or make sure you can return them.

june m · · elmore, vt · Joined Jun 2011 · Points: 116

My tc pros are two full sizes bigger than my mythos. My evolve approch shoes are the same size as the tc pros and I swim in them.   Have a pair of trail running shoes same size that I cant fit socks in. Best to try before you buy

saign charlestein · · Tacoma WA · Joined Apr 2017 · Points: 1,746

I wear a 11-11.5 street shoes depending on the brand. La sportivas aggressively sized but not painful are 42.5, comfy all day is 43.5, approach shoes are 44.

My aggressively sized evolves are 11-11.5 and my 5.10 Mocs with an almost flat foot are size 10 

Read Januskiewiecz · · Taos, NM · Joined Oct 2010 · Points: 385

Try mountainfootwearproject.com  Another plug for this site. They have done a really good job sorting out the sizing model to model even within brands. I've found that every shoe I own and use which is a lot at this point, maybe 18 pair across brands is sized spot on. 

These would be most used shoes In quiver

Street 12 0r 45.5/46

5.10 pinks all day 11 (most 5.10 one size down will be the ticket for how the shoe was designed. Maybe 1/2 up for comfy all day shoes all feel very tight before break in.)

5.10 Moccs bouldering tight 10 (break in is tough though)

Scarpa Instinct & Drago bouldering tight 44 

Scarpa Maestro 45 

TC Pro 44 (all day) 43/43.5 cragging 42.5 (sending and using all excuses)

Travis Lubinski · · Silver Cliff, Co/Apache Jun… · Joined Mar 2013 · Points: 65
saign charlestein wrote:

I wear a 11-11.5 street shoes depending on the brand. La sportivas aggressively sized but not painful are 42.5, comfy all day is 43.5, approach shoes are 44.

My aggressively sized evolves are 11-11.5 and my 5.10 Mocs with an almost flat foot are size 10 

Thank you for actually answering my question.

Alex Holmann · · Seattle, WA · Joined Jan 2019 · Points: 113

My street shoe size is 43. I only have La Sportiva shoes at the moment and have TC Pros in a 42 for longer routes (42.5 would probably be more ideal if I was planning on spending an entire day in them).

For slightly more aggressive shoes I have Solutions and Katanas in 41. The solutions dont fit me super well so they feel tighter but my katanas feel comfortable enough to do a few pitches in. Finally I have Katanas in size 40 for micro edging. These shoes are fairly tight and would not want to do more than one long pitch in them.

Jason L · · Fort Lauderdale · Joined May 2019 · Points: 0

My shoe size is usually 9.5ish depending on the brand. 

I have two pairs of otakis, 41 and 41.5. My tc pros and solution comps are 41.5, and I have a pair of scarpa dragos that are 42. The only pairs that are uncomfortable to wear for longer than a climb or two are my smaller otakis and my dragos. 

Hope this helps!

Mikey Schaefer · · Reno, NV · Joined Jun 2014 · Points: 233

38 or 38.5 approach shoes in Sportiva

38.5 or 39 in mountain boots

35.5 smallest tc pro - can barely wear for one route a day.  Only use once every couple years.

36 normal size for hardest projects

36.5 day in day out cragging fit and cruxes of multi pitch routes

37  normal multi pitch size and warmup shoes at crag.

37.5 scrambling fit where I barely need rock shoes or colder weather with medium socks

38 aid climbing or cold weather with heavy socks


edit to add:

why do people talk about sizing in American and European in the same paragraph?  Do you people just casually go between metric and imperial when measuring other identical items in your life?  Do you change your speedometer to km/h when you drive north and back to mph when you drive south?  Someone please explain this to me.

Prav C · · Arvada, CO · Joined Sep 2019 · Points: 78

Size 8 street shoes, and the same (40.5) in La Sportiva Katana and Solutions. La Sportiva's website says US 8=EU 40.5, but most shoe websites say US 8=EU 41. So IDK if they're implicitly telling people to downsize a half size in the conversion chart or if they just use a slightly different conversion from most people. 

Cory N · · Monticello, UT · Joined Sep 2018 · Points: 1,093

Street size: 11

Scarpa Vapor V: 44.5

Scarpa Vapor Lace: 44.5

Butora Altura: 12

Jason L · · Fort Lauderdale · Joined May 2019 · Points: 0
Mikey Schaefer wrote:

38 or 38.5 approach shoes in Sportiva

38.5 or 39 in mountain boots

35.5 smallest tc pro - can barely wear for one route a day.  Only use once every couple years.

36 normal size for hardest projects

36.5 day in day out cragging fit and cruxes of multi pitch routes

37  normal multi pitch size and warmup shoes at crag.

37.5 scrambling fit where I barely need rock shoes or colder weather with medium socks

38 aid climbing or cold weather with heavy socks


edit to add:

why do people talk about sizing in American and European in the same paragraph?  Do you people just casually go between metric and imperial when measuring other identical items in your life?  Do you change your speedometer to km/h when you drive north and back to mph when you drive south?  Someone please explain this to me.

I switch back and forth for the ease of it. My street shoes in the US are usually sold and marketed in US sizes, my climbing shoes are usually made somewhere in Europe and are sold and marketed in sizes that reflect that. 

However, I do switch between imperial and metric regularly. Imperial measurements are the dumbest thing in the world for most things, but where I live people use them, and it's what I'm used to using for my height. I can eyeball things like a gallon of liquid or a foot of wood, but if I'm measuring for accuracy I will use the metric system 11 times out of 10. 

Gunkiemike · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Jul 2009 · Points: 3,642
Mikey Schaefer wrote:

why do people talk about sizing in American and European in the same paragraph?  Do you people just casually go between metric and imperial when measuring other identical items in your life?  Do you change your speedometer to km/h when you drive north and back to mph when you drive south?  Someone please explain this to me.

I guess some people just realize the world doesn't end at the US border. 

Ever run it out 20 feet on your 60 meter rope?

David Burridge · · Simi Valley · Joined Oct 2018 · Points: 0

Nike - 13

All climbing shoes - 12

Guideline #1: Don't be a jerk.

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