where to retire

Frank Stein wrote:

50 shades of brown, Depressed petro-state economy, high crime rate, insular locals, shortage of water, hotter than hades in the summer, freezing in the winter, windy as hell in the spring, ski season is two months long, and all the climbing is choss.

...and yes, paradise for meth enthusiasts. 

There are definitely downsides. It ain't Boulder, after all!

Ryan Nevius wrote:

I live in Cortina and wouldn't call the climbing quieter than the Front Range...That said, it would be a great place to retire.

Don’t live there, based on my last (3) fairly long summer visits Boulder is like your August all the time only without as many motorcycles....that being said I’d choose a smaller town over Cortina proper.  Wish I’d listened and started going there years ago...I think the climbing is just brilliant.  You’ve got an awesome backyard!

Salida?  Buena Vista?  Louisville?

Las Vegas, NM?

Wenatchee?

Asheville?

Greenville, SC?

Reno?

Sonora?

Sierra Vista, AZ?

Logan?

Montpelier, ID?

Fayetteville, AR?

retire to a dope van and go where you want!

I ain't tryin to get people to come to Tucson.  In fact I'd like everyone to leave.  But I have to correct a couple of errors in above posts.  The average summer delta between Tucson (2500 ft) and Summerhaven (7500 feet on Mt Lemmon) is 25 degrees. That is 5 degrees per 1000 feet.  There really is no climbing at 9000 feet.  Some crags are over 8000 though.

So if it is 115 in Tucson (it happens !) then it 85 or 90 at summit crags or upper Sabino crags.  That is still pretty hot, espec in sun.

Hey no problem with me leaving southern Az. Lived there for 14 years and was real glad to leave and do not plan on moving back. Tucson, and we did not live there was way too big then and i am sure has not gotten any smaller.

slim wrote:

IIRC henry is a pilot (can't remember if it was henry or alan). Ironically he was a pilot one night when i was flying from drizzly seattle to denver.

It will be tough to find one location that is comparable to boulder. You will have to give something up. Probably multiple somethings. What are your priorities? Quality of climbing? Quantity of climbing? Weather? Dating scene? Food? Cost of living? Quality of people? Other things to do? Big city? Small town? Lack of trumpkins? Teeth to tattoos ratio?

Alan is the pilot and they are not related.

Hi Henry - don't know if you know but...we moved to Chattanooga. Give me a ring and I can give you the details. Bottom line: Cost of living is low and the town is fun. Climbing is plentiful, excellent and uncrowded (especially once you know the hush-hush zones). Summer is pretty much a complete write off, climbing wise. Chatt is roughly two hours from Atlanta and Nashville for when you require a big city fix. The best sport climbing starts at 11+ so many crags are devoid of the bumbling masses. 

Chile, south of Santiago.

Natchitoches, LA is cheap and pretty close to the best climbing in the state.

Louisiana is flat!!!! & underwater. It is cheap, not inexpensive. 

Matt Lavender wrote:

Alan is the pilot and they are not related.

Doh!  facepalm...

slim wrote:

IIRC henry is a pilot (can't remember if it was henry or alan). Ironically he was a pilot one night when i was flying from drizzly seattle to denver.

It will be tough to find one location that is comparable to boulder. You will have to give something up. Probably multiple somethings. What are your priorities? Quality of climbing? Quantity of climbing? Weather? Dating scene? Food? Cost of living? Quality of people? Other things to do? Big city? Small town? Lack of trumpkins? Teeth to tattoos ratio?

I think Henry is willing to forgo the dating scene.

The grass is never greener. There is no escape from this human condition. 

Maybe consider getting assistance for what bothers you in your mind or brain. Many new ways to  Heal the brain Dr Amend and Dr Ax. 

And  maybe consider talk therapy to work on inner little boy who is cranky and doesn’t like the crowds! 

Maybe Consider a remodel inside your brain and begin to feel yourself 

Also maybe consider getting a different house and climber housemates in Boulder? 

Or get hypnosis and weekly massages and feel better. 

Maybe consider stop thinking about it and take new action 

Life hack: like yourself first.

Peyton Lester wrote:

I think Henry is willing to forgo the dating scene.

my guess is that he is a wise and fortunate man!  

Mark Frumkin wrote:

Chile, south of Santiago.

this response could spurn another interesting dimension to this topic:  ex-patriating combined with relocating within proximity to worthy climbing environments.  

I retired five years ago, a safe distance outside of Boulder, Coal Creek Canyon. Tons of great uncrowded climbing if you look beyond what  your myopic Boulder bros always go to. There is more out there than the handful of decent routes in the Flatirons, Rifle, and Eldo.  South Platte - Staunton is growing rapidly, Devils Head has 1500 routes now, lots of of off the radar stuff at the Crags near Estes and the Laramie Range has miles of untapped rock. You just have to look beyond the “in” places that are still in your backyard.