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SF Bay Area - Bad Bolts

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Bay Area Climbers Coaliton · · Oakland · Joined Apr 2019 · Points: 0

This thread serves as a place to report aging fixed hardware in the San Francisco Bay Area. By gathering this information in one place, we can help to steer local volunteer re-bolting efforts to where it’s needed most.  Bay Area crags include Mt St. Helena, Mickey's Beach, Table Rock, Mt. Diablo, Castle Rock, Indian Rock, and any other rock in the SF Bay area.  

If you see a bad bolt while out climbing, please post the following information to this thread:

  • Route name and area
  • Location of the bolt (3rd, left anchor, etc.)
  • A description of problem with the bolt
    • Ex: Rusted chain, loose hanger, missing hanger, loose bolt shaft.
  • A photo of the bolt, if possible!
Thanks !

-Bay Area Climbers Coalition (BACC) - https://bayareaclimberscoalition.org/
Danny Herrera · · Santa Rosa · Joined Jul 2015 · Points: 545

1st anchor bolts on dry december / pine canyon. Some janky old hardware.

Morty Gwin · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Feb 2008 · Points: 0

Ha! Bolts and hardware are not the biggest problem there. Can't do much for the stone. 

Ryuta O · · San Francisco, CA · Joined Aug 2017 · Points: 135

Sea crag:
While facing the ocean, there's rusty chains at the anchor to the right of the ledge for red slab. Most likely for some routes on the main rock.

Danny Herrera · · Santa Rosa · Joined Jul 2015 · Points: 545
Maureen Maguire wrote: Ha! Bolts and hardware are not the biggest problem there. Can't do much for the stone. 

I dont think this place is that bad, than again I like pinns

Nicholas Santer · · Santa Cruz, CA · Joined Oct 2017 · Points: 110

Castle Rock (Sanborn County Skyline Side): Lyme Disease Rock
Route: Pigs Feat (10a)
Problem: Bad anchor bolts ; spinning, questionable quality

Castle Rock Proper Side: Mt. Doom
Routes: Summit Route
Poor Anchors on one side of Mt. Doom, old, rusted, poor bolt quality
missing second bolt hanger on Summit route (10a).

Clint Cummins · · Palo Alto, CA · Joined Jan 2007 · Points: 1,652
Danny Herrera wrote: 1st anchor bolts on dry december / pine canyon. Some janky old hardware.


Bolts themselves look fine.  Nuts and chains have some surface rust, but will be strong enough for decades.

Looks like the person who placed the anchor was too cheap to pay for stainless nuts and (any) hangers - just put the chains directly on the bolts plus a washer.
Clint Cummins · · Palo Alto, CA · Joined Jan 2007 · Points: 1,652
Ryuta Oshikiri wrote: Sea crag:
While facing the ocean, there's rusty chains at the anchor to the right of the ledge for red slab. Most likely for some routes on the main rock.


Right - the bolts, nuts and hangers are perfect stainless,

but probably someone later added the non-galvanized quicklinks and chain.
They will not last 20 years in salty/wet location, and will make a rust streak.
Maybe best to just remove the chains and replace with stainless quicklink and single link on each bolt.
A C · · Your moms house · Joined Mar 2014 · Points: 185

lol castle rock is full of bad bolts

Ross Goldberg · · Los Angeles, CA · Joined Oct 2017 · Points: 57

Almost all the hangers on Last Temptation Cliff in Castle Rock are loose. I do recall some bad bolts as well...

Danny Herrera · · Santa Rosa · Joined Jul 2015 · Points: 545

1 bolt on the temptress spins, aquarian has a few leepers that seem solid

Jacob Swartz · · Mill Valley, CA · Joined Nov 2017 · Points: 0
A C wrote: lol castle rock is full of bad bolts

Was at shady rock yesterday... Tall man simplex and cotton mouth need new bolts

mat · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Oct 2011 · Points: 4

Any thoughts on the hanger-less bolts at Goat Rock in Castle Rock State Park?

Jessica Uzarski · · Northern California · Joined May 2019 · Points: 0

Mt. St. Helena, Hailstone Arete 5.9. Chains are rusty, in addition to a couple of the bolts.

Clint Cummins · · Palo Alto, CA · Joined Jan 2007 · Points: 1,652
mat wrote: Any thoughts on the hanger-less bolts at Goat Rock in Castle Rock State Park?

There were some bolts placed in the cave there (and I recall on top) in the late 1980s / early 1990s without permission from the landowners.

They were big and could be difficult to remove.  So I think the hangers were removed instead.
They are not needed, as there are natural anchors available (sometimes it involves a very long sling or a long piece of spare rope).
mat · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Oct 2011 · Points: 4
Clint Cummins wrote:

There were some bolts placed in the cave there (and I recall on top) in the late 1980s / early 1990s without permission from the landowners.

They were big and could be difficult to remove.  So I think the hangers were removed instead.
They are not needed, as there are natural anchors available (sometimes it involves a very long sling or a long piece of spare rope).

Thanks for the reply.

I think the bolts I have in mind are newer than the late 80s/early 90s, but my understanding of time is fuzzy at best.  I was mostly curious why they had not been removed but you've answered that.

Thank you.
Danny Herrera · · Santa Rosa · Joined Jul 2015 · Points: 545

Platypus. Could use some love

Grant Kiessling · · Ben Lomond, CA · Joined Dec 2016 · Points: 0
Danny Herrera wrote: Platypus. Could use some love

This

Grant Kiessling · · Ben Lomond, CA · Joined Dec 2016 · Points: 0

Surprised Chew Tooth has seen rebolting while the Waterfall Cliff still has tons of terrible bolts.

Putrefaction, first bolt.

Eric Berghorn · · Calistoga,CA · Joined Feb 2008 · Points: 938
Joe Chossberg wrote: Mt. St. Helena, Hailstone Arete 5.9. Chains are rusty, in addition to a couple of the bolts.

Today (11/12/19) I installed a new Stainless anchor/chain at the top of Hailstone Arete. The original anchor bolts were placed in the early 1990’s by a climbing partner doing some recon. A long chain was later added using those bolts. The set up was not dangerous or anywhere near failure but the old bolts were due for replacement (approx. 25 years old ) The original bolts and “rusty chain” were inspected for safety (surface rust) and left in place at the top of “Coroner” (the climb immediately left). The new anchor should hopefully serve both climbs for a couple more decades.

Sadly the approach trail to this Crag was really hammered by the Oct 2017 burnover on the slope below the climbs. New growth, erosion, and burned terrain have made the access trail very spotty and in need of serious maintenance. Make sure to pack some lopping shears if going up there and try your hand at some much needed DIY gardening and trail restoration.
Morty Gwin · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Feb 2008 · Points: 0

Thank you, Eric.  Yes the effects of the fire are still significant.  What do you notice about the kinkaide fire..? .I heard it burned at Ida Clayton rd

Guideline #1: Don't be a jerk.

Northern California
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