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BD Oz Carabiner Expectations


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DF Dooley · · Unknown Hometown · Joined 13 days ago · Points: 0

I want to preface this with the fact that I have other BD carabiners and they have always been immaculate, so I am just looking for some guidance from others who have BD OZs to see if it is just the way they are made, or if I got a bad batch. With that being said, I recently purchased a bunch of BD OZ alpine draws and also a number of OZ carabiners and noticed that quite a few of them had irregularities in the metal. Here are just a few of the examples:






The first pic is pretty minor and looks cosmetic and was only on a few, but the triangle fold in the notch of the nose was present in various states on about a third of them. I know that they are likely still safe, but was surprised that so many that I received had these issues so wanted to reach out to the hive mind to get additional opinions. I've never purchases the OZs before so have no idea if this is par for the course or if I was just unlucky. I appreciate any input!
SeƱor Arroz · · LA, CA · Joined Jan 2016 · Points: 10

Looks like a bad anodizing job to me. I've bought BD seconds with better color jobs. 

Victor K · · Denver, CO · Joined Jul 2003 · Points: 170

Send the photos to BD. See if they'll replace them. Some here might climb on them. I wouldn't.

ClimbingOn · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Aug 2008 · Points: 405

BD Oz are my go-to carabiner. I have them on everything. They’re all the older version, as the nose on the newer version doesn’t fit through the eye on a piton. Please post up what BDs answer is. 

Ellis L · · Chico, CA · Joined Apr 2016 · Points: 71

BD are generally great about warranties and would likely replace the biners after seeing these pictures. File a claim on their website!

Tradiban · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Apr 2004 · Points: 11,455

MIRCOFRACTURES!!!!!

timinthehouse · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Jun 2016 · Points: 0
Tradiban wrote: MIRCOFRACTURES!!!!!

Yup, good call, definitely ygd scenario here.

Ryan Van Dyke · · Rolla, MO · Joined Jun 2017 · Points: 25

Could be a bad anodizing job, or it could be due to cracks in their forging dies. Bottom line is you can't tell if those defects are structural or just cosmetic. If you email BD I'm sure they'll replace them at no charge.

Cabot Steward · · SALT LAKE CITY · Joined Sep 2017 · Points: 2
Tradiban wrote: MIRCOFRACTURES!!!!!

Can’t happen in the aluminum carabiners are made of.


Also, if your in Salt Lake you can run them out to them or just shoot them an email and I’m sure KP or some gear nerd will be interested.
P.s. Ozs suck for any type of adventure climbing because their noses are to wide. They don’t fit through a lot of pitons, or leeper hangers.
John Wilder · · Las Vegas, NV · Joined Feb 2004 · Points: 1,535

This one is easy- contact BD

Alan Zhan · · Seattle, WA · Joined Jul 2013 · Points: 65
Tradiban wrote: MIRCOFRACTURES!!!!!

if u can see them theyre not microfractures yp

Mike0110 · · Long Beach, CA · Joined Jan 2015 · Points: 5

If you send them to me I can x-ray/CT scan them.

Everett · · Nevada · Joined Jul 2016 · Points: 25
Mike0110 wrote: If you send them to me I can x-ray/CT scan them.

I'll hit shit with a hammer/stick it in a press and mail it to you if that's for real.

Mike0110 · · Long Beach, CA · Joined Jan 2015 · Points: 5
Everett wrote:

I'll hit shit with a hammer/stick it in a press and mail it to you if that's for real.

No joke, PM me. It's pretty boring looking at stuff that doesn't have defects.

Jaren Watson · · Idaho · Joined May 2010 · Points: 2,003
Mike0110 wrote:

No joke, PM me. It's pretty boring looking at stuff that doesn't have defects.

“I’m so sick and tired of the photoshop.

Show me something natural like ass with some stretch marks.”
DF Dooley · · Unknown Hometown · Joined 13 days ago · Points: 0

I sent the pics over to BD and they said it likely wasn’t structural so pngd, but did offer a warranty replacement. I appreciate the advice!

Cabot you’re right, OZ noses are a bit bulky so have a few keylocks floating around just in case.

Sorry to say it Mike, but they want them back ;D If I run into an interesting object in need of non destructive internal investigation I’ll be sure to send over.

Kevin MP · · Redmond, OR · Joined Nov 2013 · Points: 412

Have had problems with gates sticking/staying open on many of my Oz's, never on any other biner.

Julian H · · Unknown Hometown · Joined May 2017 · Points: 0

I had the same thing with some gear from Kong. They told me it is fine.  Not nearly as bad.  If that many passed their quality control they might tell you the same thing.

To thick to be anodizing. I had to look this up anodizing is 0.00007" to 0.001" thick. It is probably from a forging defect a cold fold or cold shut. Probably it is fine unless it is an internal crack

Guideline #1: Don't be a jerk.

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