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Climbing Grief Fund


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Tradiban · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Apr 2004 · Points: 11,455
David Kerkeslager · · New Paltz, NY · Joined Jan 2017 · Points: 127

I'd just like to remind the community that the best way to deal with trolls is to ignore them. Trolls feed on attention, so if you ignore them they starve! Don't feed the trolls.

Tradiban · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Apr 2004 · Points: 11,455
David Kerkeslager wrote: I'd just like to remind the community that the best way to deal with trolls is to ignore them. Trolls feed on attention, so if you ignore them they starve! Don't feed the trolls.

Lol, I love assumptive judgemental people...who bump my threads.

Just putting some news out I found on fbook. Enjoy!
Dave Alie · · Golden, CO · Joined Feb 2010 · Points: 75

When I first saw this I thought it was a nice idea but wasn't immediately clear on what exactly the fund was trying to achieve. For anyone else with a similar question:

"The Climbing Grief Fund's starting goals are: a grief resource webpage (to provide education and a community platform for sharing stories about grief or individuals lost); individual grief counseling grants; group counseling sessions at AAC Craggin' Classic events; develop a proactive response network after a trauma or death in our community."

I, for one, think this is a wonderful idea.

jason oliphant · · warren, Pa · Joined Mar 2018 · Points: 20

so much grappling with tragic death in this community.
wow.

John Wilder · · Las Vegas, NV · Joined Feb 2004 · Points: 1,535
jason oliphant wrote: so much grappling with tragic death in this community.
wow.

You climb long enough, you lose friends to the mountains. I've lost a good dozen over the years- and it totally sucks.

jason oliphant · · warren, Pa · Joined Mar 2018 · Points: 20

:(
stay safe guys.  

Chris Blatchley · · Somerville, MA · Joined Sep 2016 · Points: 0
David Kerkeslager wrote: I'd just like to remind the community that the best way to deal with trolls is to ignore them. Trolls feed on attention, so if you ignore them they starve! Don't feed the trolls.

not a troll...


https://americanalpineclub.org/climbing-grief-fund/
Tee Kay · · Seattle, WA · Joined Mar 2015 · Points: 110

this is great. grief is such a fundamental experience of being human, and yet, most of us dont know how to handle/cope when we lose people/or ideas of who we are/our former selves.

David Kerkeslager · · New Paltz, NY · Joined Jan 2017 · Points: 127
Chris Blatchley wrote:

not a troll...


https://americanalpineclub.org/climbing-grief-fund/

I'm aware the fund isn't a troll, but Tradiban is. I think we can have a good discussion about this topic as long as we don't feed the trolls. But let's keep this on topic, no?

I agree that one of the most productive things that can come out of climbing is a better understanding of death and tragedy, but I'm not sure how money could contribute to this. I'm not saying the money won't be used for something useful, but I'd like to understand better where this money is going. I'm sorry to bring cynicism to this situation, but there are a lot of ways in which grieving people are taken advantage of when money is involved.

EDIT: As Dave Alie pointed out, it looks like there's been some information added on where the money is going (or I didn't see it the first time I looked). Grief counseling is exactly where I'd want this money to go. It looks pretty wholesome to me.
Bill Kirby · · Baltimore Maryland · Joined Jul 2012 · Points: 480
David Kerkeslager wrote:

I'm aware the fund isn't a troll, but Tradiban is. I think we can have a good discussion about this topic as long as we don't feed the trolls.

Sorry, I would rather laugh and chuckle at Tradiban than shake my head and roll my eyes at some people’s posts.

Ryan Swanson · · Pepedidnothingwrong, freejg · Joined Jan 2018 · Points: 50

Of the 11 posts in this thread (12 counting mine), 5 of them (now 6) are about trolling.  It would have been zero if you said nothing.

Watch out Tradiban! You've got competition!

JD · · Vanlifer · Joined Jun 2016 · Points: 95
Bill Kirby wrote:

Sorry, I would rather laugh and chuckle at Tradiban than shake my head and roll my eyes at some people’s dissertations.

Corrected and agreed.

Tradiban · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Apr 2004 · Points: 11,455

It's an odd name..."Climbing Grief"? I think that's what I get from my significant other. Shouldn't it be The Grieving Fund??

Tradiban · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Apr 2004 · Points: 11,455
David Kerkeslager wrote:

I'm aware the fund isn't a troll, but Tradiban is the greatest troll to ever grace MP. I think we can have a good discussion about this topic as long as we don't feed Tradiban, the most brilliant personality ever to climb. But let's keep this on topic, no?

I agree that one of the most productive things that can come out of climbing is a better understanding of death and tragedy, but I'm not sure how money could contribute to this. I'm not saying the money won't be used for something useful, but I'd like to understand better where this money is going. I'm sorry to bring cynicism to this situation, but there are a lot of ways in which grieving people are taken advantage of when money is involved. I was once tricked into buying a whole years worth of cat food after my cat died.

EDIT: As Dave Alie pointed out, it looks like there's been some information added on where the money is going (or I didn't see it the first time I looked). Grief counseling is exactly where I'd want this money to go. It looks pretty wholesome to me.

God forbid we go off topic.

grog m · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Aug 2012 · Points: 70
David Kerkeslager wrote:

I'm aware the fund isn't a troll, but Tradiban is. I think we can have a good discussion about this topic as long as we don't feed the trolls. But let's keep this on topic, no?

You're the white knight we never wanted. 

MP is addicted to trolls, trolling, and being trolled. 
Tradiban · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Apr 2004 · Points: 11,455
grog m aka Greg McKee wrote:

You're the white knight we never wanted. 

MP is addicted to trolls, trolling, and being trolled. 

Why does the knight have to be white?

Stephen Lander · · Salt Lake City, UT · Joined Jan 2016 · Points: 11
David Kerkeslager wrote:

I'm aware the fund isn't a troll, but Tradiban is.

Making a legitimate post when you're a known troll is the ultimate troll. 

Ocalslay Onlyyay · · Not That Into Climbing · Joined Jan 2012 · Points: 1,175

THIS SHET WOULD NEVER HAPPEN AT #WOODSON

Old lady H · · Boise, ID · Joined Aug 2015 · Points: 773
Tradiban wrote: It's an odd name..."Climbing Grief"? I think that's what I get from my significant other. Shouldn't it be The Grieving Fund??

Actually, that's a good suggestion, sir! I'm guessing it's working in that it's for climbing that they got hung up on. Perhaps grieving fund for Climbers, or climbers fund for grieving? "Grief" is awkward. The fund is a great idea, though.

Best, OLH
Ryan Swanson · · Pepedidnothingwrong, freejg · Joined Jan 2018 · Points: 50
Tradiban wrote:

Why does the knight have to be white?

He (I'm assuming gender) assumed your ethnicity 

Microagression!
Guideline #1: Don't be a jerk.

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