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Arthritis and....


J Squared · · santa barbara, CA · Joined Nov 2017 · Points: 0
Old lady H wrote:

All, I'm a work in progress, that's for sure. I see the PT tomorrow, and will have to admit I have done zip as far as the exercises she gave me. Even with such high stakes, I still have a hard time talking myself into slogging through exercises.


I also have to admit I'm really, really missing my climbing gym. Going somewhere I enjoy, with people I like, vs stretchy bands and yoga ball at home? I'm just finding it bleak. I'll get there, I have to. End of whine.

i can offer that... due to the entropic nature of the universe (things fall apart)... if you avoid the slog for long enough... eventually the body will deteriorate to the point where... you may be unable to make any movements other than to do PT.. 

bleak, i know... but take it from me.. you don't want to end up there.. it was pretty dire for a while there for me.

the movie Meru, and it's stories of massive recovery...really helped to kick my ass in-gear when I was at my lowest points..
Healyje · · PDX · Joined Jan 2006 · Points: 456
claty - hey, that was comprehensive, thanks much. I personally didn't have noticeable effects with fish oil, but I completely eliminated heavy daily doses of advil with Curcumin (Turmeric), but it took about 40-60 days to saturate with it before it really kicked it. Can't imagine climbing without it years later.
Old lady H · · Boise, ID · Joined Aug 2015 · Points: 743

J Squared, yes, I totally understand I need to get it together, and I will. Thanks!

Re turmeric, my doc actually mentioned it, and asked me to let her know if I did try it, how it went. I did it for awhile, and others things too, but probably not long enough. I'm not very good at regimen, so it's a challenge I have to work on. That carries over into exercise, too, of course. Being active, I am doing well at, or was. Losing the gym is something I don't have good replacements for, especially the people part. I may need to pop for a class, if I can't get anyone interested in training together.

Re specialists, would you say sports medicine, joint specialist, or arthritis specialist? I do want someone who can see past the old lady sitting there. That's a challenge, too, the underestimation and very low expectations of what an older woman should be doing. Ice climbing and getting ripped just isn't on their radar.

Anyway, thanks, all. I'll pull out the glucosamine and turmeric bottles, and start lining out some plans.

I liked Meru a lot, too, by the way. Beautifully filmed (no surprise there), but a great story. All that back story, the failures, the struggles, are all what made the human stories special. I enjoy The Firn Line, for the same sort of human stories.

That's also why I'm on here. You. The people are a large part of climbing, for me.

Best, OLH

Robert Hall · · North Conway, NH · Joined Aug 2013 · Points: 15,565

Re "Tart Cherry Juice"...(and about any other highly-acidic mixture(s) like grapefruit juice+vinagar, etc)  My dad tied this (for hips) and it "worked" for a few weeks. I guess it changed his blood chemistry from "normal to a bit acidic"  and he got a bad case of gout as the uric acid in his blood decided to crystallize out in his big toe joints.   Granted, he had a higher-than-normal level of uric acid to begin with, but be forewarned the "cure might be worse than the disease".  

claty · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Jul 2012 · Points: 10
Old lady H wrote:

I also have to admit I'm really, really missing my climbing gym. Going somewhere I enjoy, with people I like, vs stretchy bands and yoga ball at home? I'm just finding it bleak. I'll get there, I have to. End of whine.


Thanks for all the input from everyone, much appreciated!

Best, OLH

Is there a reason you quit the gym? Climbing can be compatible with arthritis, and even PT. If you're interested in distraction athroplasty, you can see a picture of me continuing to climb on my doctor's website: 

https://www.hss.edu/conditions_ankle-distraction-arthroplasty.asp#2

I climbed through multiple surgeries, and PT. It was even encouraged. I also did a lot of Iyengar yoga, which I found to be hugely helpful in keeping the rest of my body healthy when I did have to take time off. 
Old lady H · · Boise, ID · Joined Aug 2015 · Points: 743
claty wrote:

Is there a reason you quit the gym? Climbing can be compatible with arthritis, and even PT. If you're interested in distraction athroplasty, you can see a picture of me continuing to climb on my doctor's website: 

https://www.hss.edu/conditions_ankle-distraction-arthroplasty.asp#2

I climbed through multiple surgeries, and PT. It was even encouraged. I also did a lot of Iyengar yoga, which I found to be hugely helpful in keeping the rest of my body healthy when I did have to take time off. 

The gym closed. They were supposed to have 18-24  months, but that got moved up to about a month. There's other stuff out there, and coming in a couple years, maybe, but that was pretty much the main place here for roped climbing. I was going in the morning before work, twice a week, and an evening now and then.

My over use that pushed me to the doc, was a couple weeks ago, climbing the entire gym on their last day. My last move, pushing midnight, was off the hardest, most overhanging wall, on a lead. Full Dyno, almost at the top. It was a glorious day, and sooo worth my knee hating me for the two plus weeks since!

I'll be getting one evening per week, indoors roped, and hopefully every other week or so something outside, but it still is a big void I have to fill. That first thing, on autobelays in an empty gym, was the cornerstone of all of my gains I've made the last half year or so.

Best, OLH
Ryan Pfleger · · North Lake Tahoe, CA · Joined Sep 2014 · Points: 15
Old lady H wrote
Re specialists, would you say sports medicine, joint specialist, or arthritis specialist?

If it were me, I would see an orthopedic surgeon who does knee replacements if its osteoarthritis, and a rheumatologist if its something else. Your primary care physician should be able to tell if its OA with an xray. If the orthopedist says its time for surgery, I would start doing PT, get as strong as possible, and do it. If its not bone on bone yet, then look at some other options... injections (viscosupplementation, stem cells) supplements (turmeric, glucosamine, etc) , PT, braces, weight loss...

Also, check out Asana, Boise State, etc. Buy a hangboard. Sad to hear UA closed. I am from Boise and made a lot of friends there as well. I also worked in a few libraries in the area. I'm sure we have some mutual connections.
Old lady H · · Boise, ID · Joined Aug 2015 · Points: 743
Ryan Pfleger wrote:

If it were me, I would see an orthopedic surgeon who does knee replacements if its osteoarthritis, and a rheumatologist if its something else. Your primary care physician should be able to tell if its OA with an xray. If the orthopedist says its time for surgery, I would start doing PT, get as strong as possible, and do it. If its not bone on bone yet, then look at some other options... injections (viscosupplementation, stem cells) supplements (turmeric, glucosamine, etc) , PT, braces, weight loss...

Also, check out Asana, Boise State, etc. Buy a hangboard. Sad to hear UA closed. I am from Boise and made a lot of friends there as well. I also worked in a few libraries in the area. I'm sure we have some mutual connections.

Thanks, Ryan! Osteo, pretty straight forward, and as these things go, not too bad, yet. I'm with a PT, set up for about six weeks worth. Every other one is in the BSU pool, so I'll be there for sure every two weeks, and if I can round up partners, once a week. 

Exercise, supplements, lose a little more weight...and try not to lose my stoke.

I filled in on courier now and then, so if you ever saw a short old lady shoving bins around, we have crossed paths!

Hangboard, no, my hands are kinda beat up so I won't be pushing them. Ditto on Asana, the bouldering isn't the best for me, plus they raised their prices. Urban was an easy, before work thing, Asana wouldn't be.

I am thinking about getting a Trex type setup at home, perhaps with rock rings. I dunno. It's the people part that's the real crux. That, and staying motivated to keep slogging.

I've got my annual physical in a couple weeks. I'll see what she has to say, and if a specialist is in my near future.

Best, OLH
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