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Privately Owned Crags With Public Access


Tapawingo Markey · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Feb 2012 · Points: 75

I wasn’t insinuating any that any ill intentions were had by the OP. Like I said I was just curious what he had in mind for the information gathered or if it was just a post out of curiously. 

Edit: And as a former Missourian I appreciate the development in that neck of the woods, visits back to the Midwest are more enjoyable as a result.

Ryan Surface · · Kansas City · Joined May 2014 · Points: 379
Tapawingo Markey wrote:

I gathered that much. I’m just genuinely curious why you need/want the information and what you’re intending to do with it.

Markey,

I wanted to gather this data for my own personal research, my plan is to make a map showing the distribution of privately owned crags with express public access. I do GIS, I'll post the map up here eventually.

-thanks Will

Mike Byrnes · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Nov 2016 · Points: 0

As long as the Red River Gorge has been brought up, the Motherlode and Chocolate Factory both have a private owner who openly allows access without charge. That being said, there is a waiver on this website here needs to be filled out:

https://www.motherlode-llc.com

kevin deweese · · Oakland, Ca · Joined Jan 2007 · Points: 350

So, you DON'T me to post about my secret crag where I get to climb there because I have a handshake agreement with Farmer Robert?

DrRockso · · Red River Gorge, KY · Joined Sep 2013 · Points: 339

Torrent falls isn't really open to the public anymore. I'll also add that I would no longer include Muir Valley, since the Webers gifted the land it is now owned by an LCO rather than a "private" landowner. 

Jared Casper · · St. George, UT · Joined Feb 2006 · Points: 0

There's a small privately owned park in the SF Bay Area/Peninsula called Handley Rock: https://www.mountainproject.com/area/107301619/handley-rock-park

Tapawingo Markey · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Feb 2012 · Points: 75
Ryan Surface wrote:

Markey,

I wanted to gather this data for my own personal research, my plan is to make a map showing the distribution of privately owned crags with express public access. I do GIS, I'll post the map up here eventually.

-thanks Will

Sounds like a fun project. I work in natural resource management so I’m into that sort of thing. Look forward to the end product. 

John Wilder · · Las Vegas, NV · Joined Feb 2004 · Points: 1,535

I imagine that the access fund would be a great resource for this kind of question- it seems that they would have a good read on the majority of these kinds of crags. 


Max Supertramp · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Mar 2008 · Points: 65

John, I respect you.  And yet, at least on the grander (anti-grand?) scale, the AF don't really know dick about the private propertar potential.  

John Wilder · · Las Vegas, NV · Joined Feb 2004 · Points: 1,535
Max Supertramp wrote:

John, I respect you.  And yet, at least on the grander (anti-grand?) scale, the AF don't really know dick about the private propertar potential.  

Yeah, it's not like they loan money to private organizations to buy land with a multi-million dollar fund or anything. Oh wait... 

Ryan Surface · · Kansas City · Joined May 2014 · Points: 379

WOW I'm disappointed in the MP experience. One of my posts was deleted by the mods, it was hardly even PG-13.

Furthermore I'm limited to the number of times I can reply to MY OWN thread?


Andrew Krajnik · · Plainfield, IL · Joined Jul 2016 · Points: 324
Ryan Surface wrote:

WOW I'm disappointed in the MP experience. One of my posts was deleted by the mods, it was hardly even PG-13.

Furthermore I'm limited to the number of times I can reply to MY OWN thread?


Well, MP is in the midst of some moderation changes aimed at cracking down on trolls, so the moderation had been stepped up a notch, and there are new limits on posts in a certain amount of time. If a comment was deleted, it's likely that someone flagged it as offensive. (There's only one admin with the ability to delete posts, and flagging is the recommended way to bring a post to his attention.)

These are fresh changes, less than a week old, and Nick stated that there may be an adjustment period as they zero in on the right post limits, etc.

Ryan Surface · · Kansas City · Joined May 2014 · Points: 379
rafael wrote:

the crag I am thinking of is open to anyone who goes, theres no handshake, the owner just doesnt want any liability. Unless the people who own the crags being listed expressly agree to their property being posted online like this it should absolutely not be on. 

Rafael, my previous post in response to your comment was deleted because it must have been too risque for the pajama party here on MP. 

You crag sounds like it certainly has access issues and I would hope that you do not post it in this thread, or anywhere else.  

The last sentence in your quote is pretty dumb, especially after I specifically told you I was looking for crags that are "open for business"

ViperScale . · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Dec 2013 · Points: 240
Andrew Krajnik wrote:

Well, MP is in the midst of some moderation changes aimed at cracking down on trolls, so the moderation had been stepped up a notch, and there are new limits on posts in a certain amount of time. If a comment was deleted, it's likely that someone flagged it as offensive. (There's only one admin with the ability to delete posts, and flagging is the recommended way to bring a post to his attention.)

These are fresh changes, less than a week old, and Nick stated that there may be an adjustment period as they zero in on the right post limits, etc.

Limits have been around for a long time, nothing new here.

Bruce Morris · · Soulsbyville, CA · Joined Oct 2002 · Points: 3,218

Handley Rock, Redwood City, California.

ViperScale . · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Dec 2013 · Points: 240

Sauratown NC I believe is open most of the year now when the camp isn't running.

I think they have Hound Ears in NC open most of the year now? I think they were working on it getting open can't remember if it ever got opened for more than the comp or not.

Austin Goff · · Winston-Salem, NC · Joined Mar 2009 · Points: 80
ViperScale . wrote:

Sauratown NC I believe is open most of the year now when the camp isn't running.

I think they have Hound Ears in NC open most of the year now? I think they were working on it getting open can't remember if it ever got opened for more than the comp or not.

S-town is only open Dec-March. 

Hound Ears is open for the comp and if you are a resident. Outside of that, not open at all.. 

Cole T · · Cincinnati, OH · Joined May 2012 · Points: 316

The Motherload and the chocolate factory in the RRG is now owned by the coalition. It is no longer privately owned

eli poss · · Durango, Co · Joined May 2014 · Points: 442

Along with LRC, there's also Leda and Lower Leda which are owned by the same rich asshole. It's really dumb because the act of charging money exposes the land owner to liability that he or she would otherwise be protected from if people weren't paying him to climb. 

T Roper · · Chosstown · Joined Mar 2006 · Points: 865
eli poss wrote:

Along with LRC, there's also Leda and Lower Leda which are owned by the same rich asshole. It's really dumb because the act of charging money exposes the land owner to liability that he or she would otherwise be protected from if people weren't paying him to climb. 

That person could read this and close it for good.

Guideline #1: Don't be a jerk.

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