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5.9 is the most difficult grade you can climb.


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JSchloem · · Homer, AK · Joined Nov 2015 · Points: 265

So I'm at the gym the other day looking at all these "hard men" and "hard women" screaming and working hard on these 5.12s and 5.13s. I don't get it. If grading starts at 5.0 and increases with difficulty, then wouldn't a 5.12 be less difficult that an 5.9, from a mathematics perspective? OUR SYSTEM IS FLAWED.

the schmuck · · Albuquerque, NM · Joined Feb 2012 · Points: 110

You are correct!  And by next spring, they and I hope to be projecting 5.2!!!

Mae Rae · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Jan 2011 · Points: 20

JSchloem is correct.

That is why it is called the Yosemite Decimal System.

It is a decimal system, invented in Yosemite.

Dylan Levar · · New England · Joined Nov 2015 · Points: 345

think of it like 5, 10

Eric L · · Roseville, CA · Joined Jan 2015 · Points: 115

Thinly veiled attempt at starting a "viral post."  Good luck. :\

Benjamin Schneider · · South Hamlintownburg, NH · Joined Jul 2016 · Points: 75

Call me when you're climbing 6.0's kid

SeƱor Arroz · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Jan 2016 · Points: 10
John Wilder · · Las Vegas, NV · Joined Feb 2004 · Points: 1,535
Dave Kos wrote:

JSchloem is correct.

That is why it is called the Yosemite Decimal System.

It is a decimal system, invented in Yosemite.

Well, it is the Yosemite Decimal System, but it was not invented in Yosemite.

JonasMR · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Feb 2016 · Points: 6

Yes, you are correct.  From now on we should fix the YDS to make more sense.  So 5.10a is 5.91, .10b is 5.92, and so on.  

Thank you for correcting the mistake, brave climbing friend.

Mark Says · · Aspen, CO · Joined Jul 2017 · Points: 395

pedantic

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adjective

  1. ostentatious in one's learning.
  2. overly concerned with minute details or formalisms, especially in teaching.
Marc801 C · · Sandy, Utah · Joined Feb 2014 · Points: 65
JSchloem wrote:

So I'm at the gym the other day looking at all these "hard men" and "hard women" screaming and working hard on these 5.12s and 5.13s. I don't get it. If grading starts at 5.0 and increases with difficulty, then wouldn't a 5.12 be less difficult that an 5.9, from a mathematics perspective? OUR SYSTEM IS FLAWED.

What makes you think the YDS is mathematics based?

Alex McKenzie · · Nevada city, CA · Joined Sep 2017 · Points: 1,147
Marc801 C wrote:

What makes you think the YDS is mathematics based?

Well, there's also stuff like 1.4, 2.7, 3'6, 4.4, or whatever. All the lower classes are mathematics based

Marc801 C · · Sandy, Utah · Joined Feb 2014 · Points: 65
Alex McKenzie wrote:

Well, there's also stuff like 1.4, 2.7, 3'6, 4.4, or whatever. All the lower classes are mathematics based

What???

Chris Blatchley · · Somerville, MA · Joined Sep 2016 · Points: 0

guys, this is clearly a joke thread. seriously, some people just don't detect it I guess.

FrankPS · · Atascadero, CA · Joined Nov 2009 · Points: 275



Mark Says · · Aspen, CO · Joined Jul 2017 · Points: 395
Chris Blatchley wrote:

Page 5, Paragraph 2, Sub-paragraph 8; all items posted to the forum must be genuine and deliberate in nature.


I would hope it's not a joke, that would be a serious infraction of the rules.

Kees van der Heiden · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Oct 2016 · Points: 40
John Wilder wrote:

Well, it is the Yosemite Decimal System, but it was not invented in Yosemite.

It's not even Decimal. Are we sure it's a System?

Marc801 C · · Sandy, Utah · Joined Feb 2014 · Points: 65
Kees van der Heiden wrote:

It's not even Decimal. Are we sure it's a System?

It's the Tahquitz definition of decimal that is now known as Yosemite decimal. The conversion factor is 1.629632 : 0.985

Mae Rae · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Jan 2011 · Points: 20
John Wilder wrote:

Well, it is the Yosemite Decimal System, but it was not invented in Yosemite.

I know for a fact that John Muir was in Yosemite when he invented it.

BrokenChairs BrettC · · Sultan, WA · Joined Feb 2015 · Points: 235
Marcus wrote:

Extracted from the MountainProject Terms of Use:

Page 5, Paragraph 2, Sub-paragraph 8; all items posted to the forum must be genuine and deliberate in nature.


I would hope it's not a joke, that would be a serious infraction of the rules.



Marc801 C · · Sandy, Utah · Joined Feb 2014 · Points: 65
Chris Blatchley wrote:

guys, this is clearly a joke thread. seriously, some people just don't detect it I guess.

Chris, all the responses are clearly jokes in a joke thread. You just don't detect it I guess. 

Oh. Wait. Your reply was clearly a joke in a joke thread. 

This meta joking is getting almost as confusing as the SDY.

Guideline #1: Don't be a jerk.

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