packable multipitch backpacks?

TUFA Mochila is unstoppable.

If you get a pack that's less than 18L it's a good idea to get one with a sewn daisy chain. that makes a huge difference IMO. a lot of times I can use my 16 or 18 on the approach too if I can strap down a few things to the outside.

I'll throw in a vote for the Linked 16L http://www.patagonia.com/product/linked-pack-16-liters/48050.html

Carries well, pretty burly and packs enough. Rolling the extended collar gives it some measure of weather resistance (light). With some smart packing and lashing the rope on top I can actually use this thing for a day of sport climbing. It's got loops for cord down the sides that let you attach whatever you want. It's relatively cheap, frequently on sale and is available enough that you have a shot at trying it on.

Cons: 

It hauls ok, but the back panel will get torn up if it twists. Although cinching the shoulder straps down mitigates this.

This one's on me, but worth noting - I attempted to use it for a day of trad cragging (light rack) and put a hole in the fabric between the front pocket and main area. That was me being overzealous.

If it's fully stuffed getting stuff out of the front zippered pocket can be a bit of a hassle.

While I don't have Tufas pack, I'll definitely toss them a vote as I use some of their other gear. If/when this thing goes I'll probably grab a stripped down mochilla.

Nolan Fulton wrote:

I got a Exped summit lite 25L 

Exped lite

i really liked how light it was. Has some sewn loops, water bottle pouch, ice axe sling, and chest and waist straps

Super cheap from Cotswold Outdoor right now

I carry the BD speed 22 and leave the lid and back pad at home.  It sits high enough, is light, and packs down enough for what I need. I did Mithril Dihedral inn Russell with it a couple of weeks ago. It seems like it'll hold up for quite a while. 

Dead bird Cierzo 18, packs into it's front pocket (grapefruti sized), smushes flat at the bottom of a duffle, and has ice axe loops. https://arcteryx.com/ca/en/shop/mens/Cierzo-18-Backpack

I'm trying to find my perfect trad/alpine backpack that satisfies everything on my list

1) Less than $200 (including shipping and discount)

2) Less than 1kg 

3) Strong (at least 240 denier or strong enough to withstand light hauling)

4) Side compression strap

5) Hydration compatible

6) Expandable 

7) 25~30L

so far I looked at.....

Ortovox Trad 30 (satisfies everything except #6)

Black Diamond Speed 30 (satisfies everything except #2, but I heard waist belt padding and head can come off, so I don't know its "true" weight)

Cilogear 30 (satisfies everything except #1 only because I can't find discount code)

Arcteryx Alpha FL 30 (satisfies everything except #4 and #5)

Any suggestion?

Edit: Black Diamond 22 looks promising if it can expand to 30L

RandyLee wrote:

I carry the BD speed 22 and leave the lid and back pad at home.  It sits high enough, is light, and packs down enough for what I need. I did Mithril Dihedral inn Russell with it a couple of weeks ago. It seems like it'll hold up for quite a while. 

Hey, can I ask you some questions about BD Speed 22?

1) How large is extension collar on BD speed 22? Do you think I can fit 30L of gears all inside the backpack with collar fully extended?

2) When you say it "sits high enough", can I expect the backpack to rest comfortably on lumbar for long approach? BD Speed 22 doesn't offer size choice (S/M vs M/L) and it looks pretty small. My torso is about 20.5in and I'm 5'10"      

Thanks~

Exped core series

John L wrote:

I'm trying to find my perfect trad/alpine backpack that satisfies everything on my list

         

1) Less than $200 (including shipping and discount)

2) Less than 1kg 

3) Strong (at least 240 denier or strong enough to withstand light hauling)

4) Side compression strap

5) Hydration compatible

6) Expandable 

7) 25~30L

           

so far I looked at.....

Ortovox Trad 30 (satisfies everything except #6)

Black Diamond Speed 30 (satisfies everything except #2, but I heard waist belt padding and head can come off, so I don't know its "true" weight)

Cilogear 30 (satisfies everything except #1 only because I can't find discount code)

Arcteryx Alpha FL 30 (satisfies everything except #4 and #5)

Any suggestion?

How about 

Deuter GUIDE LITE 28 SL ?

http://www.deuter.com/US/us/climbing/guide-lite-28-sl-3360017.html

PW Zenpw wrote:

How about 

Deuter GUIDE LITE 28 SL ?

http://www.deuter.com/US/us/climbing/guide-lite-28-sl-3360017.html

I didn't realize Deuter updated Guide series. I have Guide 35+ (1.6kg I think) and it's pretty heavy for 35~40L range (but damn comfortable).

I guess Deuter made guide series lighter?

I pretty much always use the REI Flash 18 new model here. https://www.rei.com/product/892074/rei-co-op-flash-18-pack

Wild Things guide pack. 20L. 28oz. Ice axe loops. Compression straps. Tough. $198. My go-to pack year round.

Scott McMahon wrote:

I pretty much always use the REI Flash 18 new model here. https://www.rei.com/product/892074/rei-co-op-flash-18-pack

The OP wants durability. I take it you haven't abused the pack very hard. Mine is held together with tape. The flash is a good cheap pack, but it can't be hauled nor taken up a squeeze chimney without ripping in half. 

I use one of these on summit runs:

https://www.outdoorresearch.com/us/en/gear/gear/backpacks-and-duffels/isolation-pack-lt/p/2440200001222

And one of these when I'm carrying an axe/crampons:

http://blackdiamondequipment.com/en/climbing-packs/speed-22-pack-BD681179_cfg.html#q=speed&start=6

Max Rausch wrote:

The OP wants durability. I take it you haven't abused the pack very hard. Mine is held together with tape. The flash is a good cheap pack, but it can't be hauled nor taken up a squeeze chimney without ripping in half. 

Ah saw "packable"

CAMP Eghen 22 liter technical pack

http://www.camp-usa.com/products/packs/eghen/

Wild Things guide- tough as nails + packable.

John L wrote:

Hey, can I ask you some questions about BD Speed 22?

1) How large is extension collar on BD speed 22? Do you think I can fit 30L of gears all inside the backpack with collar fully extended?

2) When you say it "sits high enough", can I expect the backpack to rest comfortably on lumbar for long approach? BD Speed 22 doesn't offer size choice (S/M vs M/L) and it looks pretty small. My torso is about 20.5in and I'm 5'10"      

      

Thanks~

Ask away! It might just take me a bit to get back to you. I've been out climbing. 

Extension collar is pretty large. Not sure that it's an extra 8 liters... but I fit a full rack of doubles 0.1 - 4 plus nuts, tricams, slings, etc in there with a small first aid kit and rain jacket jammed in there and a 1.5l water bottle on top of all of that. I usually clip the harness, shoes, and helmet on the outside with. Sandwich, head lamp, and other bits and pieces go in the top compartment unless I take it off to go light, then they live at the bottom. I'm 5'.10", no idea on torso size but I wear a medium shirt / jacket in most brands if that helps, and it's super comfortable to me. I've taken it as a pack on a 15+ mile day hike and it was great. I'm a big fan. I'm sure some of the more expensive niche manufacturers that have been mentioned make gear that is better, but I'm super happy with the BD speed 22. I wish my petzl bug had held up half as well. I ripped that poor thing to shreds in no time.