Wind River Partner July


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Marco Dees · · New Paltz · Joined Dec 2013 · Points: 50

Hullo! 

I'm looking for partners for long remote alpine adventures in the Wind River range in July. Happy to tackle awesome scrambles or technical rock or ice. Safe, relaxed belays. Come climb!

Chuck Sullivan · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Oct 2015 · Points: 50

I think the snow is going to be too heavy for this July.  We have been chatting with the folks that do gear drops at Lonesome Lake.  300 percent more snow than normal.  Do you happen to have any other information?  We have been planning this trip forever and would hate to have to find a Plan B.

Josh Hattan · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Oct 2006 · Points: 0

Yes, the Winds did have a banner snow year, but I wouldn't rule out the entire month of July. Multiple groups entered Big Sandy Opening last week to attempt the Cirque Traverse. They knew the conditions would be a bit rowdy, but they were looking forward to the adventure. I should hear back on those conditions soon. 

In a historical context, the snowpack this year was comparable to that of 2011. This year's pack ended up about 15% more, but the gauging station at Big Sandy melted out 13 days earlier than 2011. Above average spring temperatures are eating into snowpack and I honestly believe that early July is not out of the question for climbing in the Cirque. That doesn't mean it will be snow free, but rather that the snow line should be above 10,000 ft and consolidated enough to travel on. The southern aspects will be better for climbing as the rock on some of the northern aspects could be wet...adventure climbing. If that doesn't sound appealing, give it a couple more weeks. By mid July the climbing throughout the Cirque should be pretty prime.

The Great Outdoor Shop works hard to collect conditions information and pass it along. Feel free to call or email as your trip gets closer and we can relay the most current conditions.

Josh

Great Outdoor Shop

Jaren Watson · · Boise, Idaho · Joined May 2010 · Points: 1,205

Somebody on MP climbed Pingora just last week. Yes, the approach was snowy, but the route was dry.

I think the bigger issue this year will be the mosquitoes. Seriously. July in the Winds is normally almost unbearable, in my opinion, and this year will likely be markedly worse.

But for you brave and hardy folks, I wouldn't back off a planned trip in July based on snow. Plenty of faces will be nicely accessible.

Have fun and be safe!

Garret Nuzzo-Jones · · Salt Lake City, UT · Joined Feb 2012 · Points: 1,448

I could be interested in a Winds trip in July. Probably the later in July the better. If this weather keeps up things should melt out nicely but there are still a few flakes up high.

losbill · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Nov 2006 · Points: 130
Josh Hattan wrote:

The Great Outdoor Shop works hard to collect conditions information and pass it along. Feel free to call or email as your trip gets closer and we can relay the most current conditions.

Josh

Great Outdoor Shop

Josh and the entire crew at The Great Outdoor Shop in Pinedale are the best.  Extremely helpful and very friendly.  If you are in Pinedale be sure to stop in, say hey and spend a bit of money.

Andre Cardona · · Jackson · Joined Jun 2017 · Points: 10

Marco , Garret; I'm also down for a adventure climbing trip to wind river in July or Agust. Just moved to Jackson from Seattle and looking to climb/explore WY.
would need some advance notice if its more than a long weekend trip, to take off from work. Let me know!

Dre

alecentress · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Oct 2016 · Points: 0

Interested in checking out the winds/cirque area July 1-8 or so, passing through on the way to the Tetons. As long as the climbs are mostly dry, I don't mind snow on the approach. Maybe if it's still snowy the mosquitoes won't be out yet? That's probably wishful thinking. 

Happy to lead some more moderate stuff, very happy to follow anything else. 

Jaren Watson · · Boise, Idaho · Joined May 2010 · Points: 1,205
Maybe if it's still snowy the mosquitoes won't be out yet? That's probably wishful thinking. 

Wishful thinking indeed! :)

losbill · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Nov 2006 · Points: 130

Wishful thinking is sitting on your ass on your couch due to a perceived "bug" issue while others are out enjoying one of the truly beautiful places on earth.

Jaren Watson · · Boise, Idaho · Joined May 2010 · Points: 1,205
losbill wrote:

Wishful thinking is sitting on your ass on your couch due to a perceived "bug" issue while others are out enjoying one of the truly beautiful places on earth.

Perhaps. I actually am sitting at home right now, so I commend you for your perception. But you'll have to forgive me for needing rest occasionally. I've only been averaging four trips in the mountains per week this spring. Nothing major, mostly hiking with my wife and getting some easy climbing in.

I have no doubt you're way more hardcore than I am, but I've been to the Winds in July and I noticed that when I was there in August and in September, I was able to enjoy the alpine beauty considerably more since I wasn't viewing it through mosquito netting.

I never suggested people cancel trips in July. If you're as good at reading as at leaping to conclusions, you'll notice that. Rather, I attempted to alert the OP and others to the very real concern of heavy mosquitoes.

Yes, they're just bugs. You are right about that. But it's not uncommon at all for people to leave this range early because they were not prepared for how bad mosquitoes can be in the Winds.

I do agree with you that the Winds are remarkably beautiful. 

FrankPS · · Atascadero, CA · Joined Nov 2009 · Points: 275

I think mosquitoes can ruin a trip. Even with DEET and a headnet. Nothing manly about being eaten alive! "It's just a flesh wound."

Billy Danger · · Asheville, NC · Joined Mar 2005 · Points: 233

I'll throw my name in the hat for a potential trip in to the Winds. I've been there a few times before, and am willing to deal with bugs. I'll be in the area the week of the 16 to the 22, and the first week of August. I'm psyched on routes in the 9s and 10s, but am up for anything. 

losbill · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Nov 2006 · Points: 130

You bet your ass I am damn bug pest badass.  

Planned to go climbing for 4 days in the Daks next week.  Unfortunately the black fly report wasn't manly enough.  So we are headed for the New Hampshire Whites instead.  The Mecca of Black Flies.  Where else could you go and on one approach and climb get chewed on by four different species of black flies.  Each species more blood thirsty and vicious than the one before.  Personally I would take the most intense mosquito conditions ever over relatively normal black fly conditions.  As a climber, hiker and big water canoeist here in the Northeast i have a vast personal database to support this conclusion.

Full disclosure my only trip to the Winds was three weeks in late August and early September.  No bugs whatsoever!  Yes I am a Winds whimp!  Did have to wrestle a black bear for our food bag however.  If that counts for anything.

If it were not for prior commitments I would be joining Marco and his happy crew in the Winds.  Marco let's hook up in the Gunks when you get back.

Marco Dees · · New Paltz · Joined Dec 2013 · Points: 50

Thanks for the replies! Just back from a trip to the cirque of the towers. Plenty of snow (glad to have an ice ax on the approaches) but the rock is dry. Even better, although the mosquitos are horrendous on the approach, there isn't a single one after Jackass pass.

Jaren Watson · · Boise, Idaho · Joined May 2010 · Points: 1,205
Marco Dees wrote:

Thanks for the replies! Just back from a trip to the cirque of the towers. Plenty of snow (glad to have an ice ax on the approaches) but the rock is dry. Even better, although the mosquitos are horrendous on the approach, there isn't a single one after Jackass pass.

Awesome! Glad you had a fun trip.

Mike Sullivan · · Durango, CO · Joined Sep 2004 · Points: 60

I'm also interested in the Winds, any time from late July through early September. This will be my third climbing trip there -- Cirque of the Towers, Deep Lake Basin.... Also interested in checking out more obscure areas.

Chuck Sullivan · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Oct 2015 · Points: 50

Thanks Marco and Josh for the info.  We are heading out there next week. 

longlep · · Reno, NV · Joined May 2014 · Points: 20

Does anyone want to head to Titcomb Basin or the East Fork July 24th - 30th? I have never been to either area, but am interested in I think therefore I ambush on Ambush Peak, Northeast face right/hole in the wall on Ambush Peak, South Buttress/East Face of Raid Peak, and Tower 1 West Face Left on Mt. Helen.  I am also open to other routes or other parts of the Winds.  I am heading to the Cirque this week, so I won't be able to respond to pms from the afternoon of the 18th to the 22nd.  Feel free to call or text me at 360-441-2796.  

Kali Ann Basman · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Nov 2016 · Points: 0

Looking for wind river partner August 4th, 5th, and 6th.

Brian Baker 1 · · Unknown Hometown · Joined May 2015 · Points: 25

I'm looking for a Cirque of the towers partner starting around july 25th. Solid at 5.8. Will lead 5.9 depending on the climb. Follow 10a, 10b.  Open to what's reasonable given the partner. Never been there.  Stoked to check it out!

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